;March 31, 1996 ;컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴 ; Beyond The Horizon Compiler ; Menu Data File 1.01 ;컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴 ; designed and developed by Murray Stokely (aka Shivan Bastard) ; ; ; format - ; ; menuname.menu ; # of options {byte} ; *document to scroll {string[12]} ; option title {string[30]} ; option author {string[30]} ; x coordinate of option {byte} ; y coordinate of option {byte} ; ; general.config ; submenu higlited option color {byte} ; submenu normal option color {byte} ; fadespeed for gus and no sound {byte} ; fadespeed for other sound cards {byte} ; ; ; guidelines - ; ; options must be in descending order relative to y axis (top to bottom) ; no more than 10 options per menu ; ';' indicates commented text ; '*' is used to distinquish between menu identifier, and actual text ; articles are limited to 500 lines, 100 characters per line ; ; general.config 8 11 20 1 ; ; ; introduction.menu 4 *intro.bth introduction to issue #4 mindcrime 42 12 *notes.bth programmers notes shivan bastard 46 13 *credits.bth march contributors bth staff 45 14 *contact.bth contacting the bth staff bth staff 42 15 ; ; ; articles.menu 8 *article.1 liberate #ansi mindcrime 47 10 *article.2 hornet demo archive shivan bastard 44 11 *article.3 ansi programming shivan bastard 46 12 *article.4 now hiring writers bth staff 45 13 *article.5 intro to eggdrop bots hack 43 14 *article.6 bth rumor wall(tm) bth staff 45 15 *article.7 revival literature mister e 45 16 *article.8 quotes from the underground mindcrime 40 17 ; ; ; interviews.menu 5 *iv.1 interview with stone the crow shivan bastard 39 12 *iv.2 interview with bedlam shivan bastard 43 13 *iv.3 interview with halaster shivan bastard and pushead 42 14 *iv.4 interview with mr. muff shivan bastard and pushead 42 15 *iv.5 interview with neurotic shivan bastard 42 16 ; ; ; reviews.menu 12 *review.1 (acid ) acdu0396.zip trip 42 8 *review.2 (ice ) ice9603?.zip mindcrime 42 9 *review.3 (dark ) dark9603.zip riv 42 10 *review.4 (fire ) fire9603.zip mindcrime 42 11 *review.5 (fire ) fire9604.zip mindcrime 42 12 *review.6 (cia ) ciapak32.zip mindcrime 42 13 *review.7 (cia ) ciapak33.zip mindcrime 42 14 *review.8 (mop ) mop-9604.zip mindcrime 42 15 *review.9 (septic) sept9603.zip mindcrime 42 16 *review.10 (cancer) cancer01.zip lucifer 42 17 *review.11 (gravty) gvt-0396.zip mindcrime 42 18 *review.12 (lepers) ls-0396 .zip mindcrime 42 19 ; ; ; otherreviews.menu 4 *www.rev the world wide web shivan bastard 44 12 *bbs.rev bulletin boards! mindcrime 44 13 *emag.rev electronic magazines mindcrime 44 14 *program.rev programs and stuff mindcrime 44 15 ; ; ; bestart.menu 5 *ansi.1 king midas - the regency king midas 40 11 *ansi.2 iodine - free coke iodine 40 12 *ansi.3 halaster - cool dudes inc. halaster 40 13 *ansi.4 lemonade - free coke lemdonade 40 14 *ansi.5 lord soth + nailz - ice prodz ls+nz 40 15 article.1 254 *** Topic for #ansi: |15Down with tyranny, liberate #ansi!|07 For several months now, the tyrannical rule of #ansi by the world's biggest dick, maytrickz, has been a hot topic in the art scene. Seemingly out of nowhere, maytrickz appeared one day with his cronies and they haven't relinquished control of #ansi since. His panzy ass group of lame irc "hackers" (and I use the term loosely: these fools have no honor) has been showing of its lameness for months, taking over individual group channels and generally being a bunch of assholes. Somehow, maytrickz has won the support of several of the newer artists and their small groups. If the art scene has any hope left at all, we must collaberate out efforts to take out this lamer. As Nootropic so wonderfully outlined in Superflu issue#3, every bit of opposition helps. On Friday, March 22nd at approximately 8pm, I recieved ops in #ansi. After setting the channel to invite and kicking everyone out, I proceeded to set up camp with several of my friends. #ansi was free of the tyranny for 17 hours, until approximatly 1pm Saturday afternoon. Some would call this a futile act, but I see it as a symbol of our opposition. Maytrickz will fall, but unless we learn from this experiance and unite our efforts, the tyranny will only be passed to another. Below are some of the logs from that nights takeover. Most of the logs were provided by Lucifer, who was kind enough to infiltrate #toe and let everyone in #ansi know what was going on in the futile efforts of maytrickz and gang to regain control. These logs also reflect the takeover of #toe, for about 30 minutes around midnight. Lucifer did his part, as did the rest of the crew that was holed up in #ansi for most of the night. |13--- begin log #toe 1 ---|07 *** acidjazz has changed the topic on channel #toe to .x(!)x. ping n3rd to hell .x(!)x. n3rd is cerkit *** Users on #ansi: whtetrash @n3rd @cerkit @mcone @aval24234 @d00d @l000zer *** Whois Information for: d00d *** Address : wrygiel@205.199.95.143 *** IRCNAME : avalenche *** Server : irc.stealth.net ([206.26.140.20] Stealth - New York City) n3rd is cerkit n3rd is cerkit n3rd is cerkit n3rd is cerkit n3rd is cerkit n3rd is cerkit wht3: how are you in there? n3rd is cerkit n3rd is cerkit shadow: becuz i rock n3rd is cerkit n3rd is cerkit n3rd is cerkit *** Users on #ansi: whtetrash @n3rd @cerkit @mcone @aval24234 @d00d @l000zer n3rd is cerkit n3rd is cerkit *** Users on #ansi: whtetrash @n3rd @cerkit @mcone @aval24234 @d00d @l000zer *** Users on #ansi: whtetrash @n3rd @cerkit @mcone @aval24234 @d00d @l000zer *** Users on #ansi: whtetrash @n3rd @cerkit @mcone @aval24234 @d00d @l000zer *** Users on #ansi: whtetrash @n3rd @cerkit @mcone @aval24234 @d00d @l000zer n3rd is cerkit n3rd is cerkit HE IS MORE THAN N3RD n3rd is cerkit n3rd is cerkit <-zZz-> Split Servers : <-zZz-> [#1] [*.au] lets wait fer splits.. shhhh :} <-zZz-> Split Servers :n <-zZz-> [#1] [*.au] <-zZz-> [#2] [joyce.eng.yale.edu]d sh00r -n3rd- CTCP Flood from _YOU_ scanned! AutoIgnored for 1min. % error % whte: user listing please * MayTrickZ is away <-zZz-> automatically set-away <-zZz-> all messages will be logged whte: user listing please whte: user listing please *** ShadowImg has been kicked off channel #toe by spear (rub kick :)) --=[#toe] ShadowImg (shadimg@slip-211.i1.net) joined the channel. hah that was almost funny [detached] [nj5.injersey.com:lucifer] white trash is such an idiot he has everyone in #toe believing that he is in #ansi. what a dork. little does he know. [nj5.injersey.com:lucifer] screen -r There are several screens on: 8869.ttyp6.nj5 (Dead ???) 13837.ttyp1.nj5 (Dead ???) 16813.ttyp8.nj5 (Dead ???) 11220.ttyp9.nj5 (Dead ???) 15448.ttypc.nj5 (Dead ???) 24682.ttyp2.nj5 (Dead ???) 1272.ttyp6.nj5 (Dead ???) 7935.ttyp0.nj5 (Detached) 10820.ttyp0.nj5 (Detached) Remove dead Sockets with 'screen -wipe'. Type "screen [-d] -r [pid.]tty.host" to resume one of them. [nj5.injersey.com:lucifer] screen -r 10820 >(B@d00d @l000zer mcone just logged off wow. dread's floods rule. I must've sent him' like 100 floods with bots. phear me, i can hewk up the rts b0ts to my fl00d stuff EVERYONE FLOOD THE PEOPLE ON WHTERASHS NAMES LIST EVERYONE FLOOD THE PEOPLE ON WHTERASHS NAMES LIST EVERYONE FLOOD THE PEOPLE ON WHTERASHS NAMES LIST |13--- end log #toe 1 --- |13--- begin log #ansi 1 ---|07 #ANSI IS AT OUR KNEE'S GENTLEMEN. "pslams of the .com's" by cerkit i'm dropping bomb's on your mom's said i, in the psalms of the sadly, now hax0r'd, .com's. bust'n the chops of the ircops wiff my newly obtained accounts and poor mister root, didn't notice that t-bounce. so they said they got the feds or whatcha call em the secret service but, i continued wiff my hax'n, i wasn't even slightly nervous. |13--- end log #ansi 1 --- |13--- begin log #ansi 2, the one where mykeysoft thought he was cool ---|07 --=[#ansi] MykeySoft (mykey@mykey.getnet.com) joined the channel. [<-V->] In #ansi: '+o MykeySoft' *** Mode change "-ooo n3rd3 g00fb4ll d4mnf00l" on channel #ansi by mindcrime *** Mode change "-ooo fuQh0ZE cerkit MykeySoft" on channel #ansi by mindcrime *** Mode change "+b *!*mykey@*.getnet.com" on channel #ansi by mindcrime *** MykeySoft has been kicked off channel #ansi by mindcrime (mindcrime) *** Mode change "+ooo n3rd3 thaibudz g00fb4ll" on channel #ansi by mindcrime *** Mode change "+ooo d4mnf00l fuQh0ZE cerkit" on channel #ansi by mindcrime |13--- end log #ansi 2 --- |13--- begin log #toe 2, the one where lucifer regulated ---|07 *** Mode change "-oo spear Enigmatic" on channel #toe by lucifer_ *** Mode change "-oooo toeman SuLPHuR MayTrickZ _\Shroom" on channel #toe by + pud_ *** whtetrash has been kicked off channel #toe by lucifer_ (lucifer_) *** pud_ has been kicked off channel #toe by lucifer_ (lucifer_) *** wh0dini has been kicked off channel #toe by lucifer_ (lucifer_) *** Enigmatic has been kicked off channel #toe by lucifer_ (lucifer_) *** spear has been kicked off channel #toe by lucifer_ (lucifer_) *** pud_ (lucifer@nj5.injersey.com) has joined channel #toe *** whtetrash (woody@buffnet3.buffnet.net) has joined channel #toe *** wh0dini (wh0rd@slip5-5.acs.ohio-state.edu) has joined channel #toe *** m0o_tang has been kicked off channel #toe by lucifer_ (lucifer_) *** sparr has been kicked off channel #toe by lucifer_ (lucifer_) *** Enigmatic (alien@evt-pm0-ip24.halcyon.com) has joined channel #toe *** hS has been kicked off channel #toe by lucifer_ (lucifer_) *** Abu has been kicked off channel #toe by lucifer_ (lucifer_) that sucks. shiz *** Abu (devious@139.57.211.33) has joined channel #toe *** MayTrickZ has been kicked off channel #toe by lucifer_ (lucifer_) *** MayTrickZ (zEphyR@syru119-063.syr.edu) has joined channel #toe *** spear (~Spear1@viking.cris.com) has joined channel #toe *** Devious has been kicked off channel #toe by lucifer_ (lucifer_) *** SuLPHuR has been kicked off channel #toe by lucifer_ (lucifer_) wh0d: mass kick *** sparr (~sparr@ParkersPrairie-9.DialUp.polaristel.net) has joined channel kick lucifer kick lucifer kick lucifer i can't. yew fuckers op me i can i lost ops. *** toeman has been kicked off channel #toe by lucifer_ (lucifer_) *** Mode change "+o pud_" on channel #toe by lucifer_ *** Mode change "+i" on channel #toe by lucifer_ilnt 420) *** toeman #toe They aren't on that channel (from irc.winternet.com) i lost ops. oh no ops jeezez... yay *** whtetrash has left channel #toe takeovers are fucking lame.. *** wh0dini is now known as wh0d *** Enigmatic has been kicked off channel #toe by lucifer_ (lucifer_) *** wh0d has been kicked off channel #toe by lucifer_ (lucifer_) *** wh0d (wh0rd@slip5-5.acs.ohio-state.edu) has joined channel #toe *** pud_ has been kicked off channel #toe by lucifer_ (lucifer_) takeovers are only non-lame when the person has a good reason. *** Current channel #toe *** You are on the following channels: *** #toe +ilnt 420 (irc2.epix.net): lucifer_ wh0d *** wh0d has been kicked off channel #toe by lucifer_ (bye) *** wh0d (wh0rd@slip5-5.acs.ohio-state.edu) has joined channel #toe *** Mode change "+b *!*h0rd@*.acs.ohio-state.edu" on channel #toe by lucifer_ *** wh0d has been kicked off channel #toe by lucifer_ (lucifer_) *** wh0d (wh0rd@slip5-5.acs.ohio-state.edu) has joined channel #toe** |15*** mindcrime has changed the topic on channel #toe to Desynk can eat a + fucking dick |13--- end log #toe 2 --- |13--- begin log #toe 3, the one where acidjazz thought he was cool ---|07 *acidjazz* right now covin, and the xnet people are colliding #toe and #ansi, + you best invite me or your on their shitlist *acidjazz* the group maytrickz is TRYING to get in. *acidjazz* including SUBZERO *acidjazz* MIKEYSOFT *acidjazz* forget it *acidjazz* your banned maytrickz is a fucking PUSSY |13--- end log #toe 3 --- |13--- begin log #ansi 3, the one where the tyranny began again ---|07 *** NetHack(#ansi): "+o Bolt" sup all YO wassup *** n3rd3 has been kicked off channel #ansi by fug ( PhoEniX with Fluff Mods ) *** rdel has been kicked off channel #ansi by fug ( PhoEniX with Fluff Mods ) *** AutoJoin(#ansi): canceled (AutoJoin is Off) *** You have been kicked off channel #ansi by fug ( PhoEniX with Fluff Mods ) |13--- end log #ansi 3 ---|07 So, there you have it folks. The 17 hour reign ended in a lame nethack when no one was watching. If sleep wasn't a necassary human function, #ansi would have been ours forever, because maytrickz may think he's bad, but the truth is that he's a fucking lame ass pussy. Down with the tyranny, liberate #ansi! |07 ,#' |08(|15mindcrime|07::blade'legacy'acid|08) -- -+ |07.$#. |08(|07close your eyes, you can find all you need in your mind|08) - -+ article.2 135 |15 |15 FTP.CDROM.COM/PUB/DEMOS/INCOMING/ANSI REMOVED! |08 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |07 |07 It was humanimously decided that on March 9th the ansi directory on |07 FTP.CDROM.COM would be removed. This is the Walnut Creek CDROM archive |07 and is the busiest ftp site in the world, allowing over 1250 anonymous |07 users to logon simulataneously. The members of the demo group, Hornet |07 maintain a large directory on this site (/demos). It has become the |07 primary source for file transfers in the art, music, and demo scenes. |07 The /ansi directory was apparently used on numerous occasions for |07 temporary storage of commercial software, between stupid warez traders. |07 This was just one of the reasons the directory was deleted. According |07 to Trixter (who ive sent pages and pages of emails) only about 1 file |07 in 8 was uploaded with a . TXT decription in the /ansi directory. In |07 most other directories, only 1 file in 4 was MISSING a TXT description. |07 There were also alot more 0 byte files and bad uploads than in any |07 other directory. |07 |07 These may seem like legitamate reasons to remove the directory, |07 however the real reasons for the removal of the directory are a little |07 deeper. A few months ago the members of Hornet started adding a top |07 downloads section to there weekly publication, Demonews. They made |07 negative comments about the fact that an art pack was the number one |07 downloaded file (acdu0196). In the following weeks, alot of people |07 sent email to the members of hornet about there comments, and |07 specificaly, the labeling of the ACiD art disk as a 'ansi pack'. |07 When March finaly came around, radman (founder of acid) decided to make |07 sure that even more people downloaded the acid disk from ftp.cdrom.com, |07 to do this, he didnt allow anyone to send it via IRC, and linked the |07 acid world wide web page, directly to the cdrom.com archive. This |07 obviously wouldve signifigantly increased the number of downloads for |07 the upcoming list in demonews, yet when it came out, only the bottom |07 nine files were listed. The acid pack had been removed. Was this |07 because they were planning the removal of the /ansi directory? and it |07 would hardly warrent removal if the most downloaded file was located |07 there? According to Trixter (hornet pr guy) It was removed because it |07 was directly linked from acid's homepage(over 600 hits daily), and they |07 decided that was against the rules (bullshit). I didnt mean for this |07 article to be this long, but it realy pisses me off when demo coders |07 think they are gods. Here are the facts ... |07 |08------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |15 |151. ACDU0196.ZIP released |152. ACDU0196.ZIP hits Demonews #1 download the first week of their top d/l's |153. Hornet / Demonews talks alot of shit about #1 download being a 'ansi pack' |154. ACDU0196.ZIP stays in the top ten for 7 weeks |155. ACDU0396.ZIP released (over 800 downloads projected) |156. In Demonews #118 Only 9 on top 10 are shown (acdu0396 was censored from #1) |157. It is confirmed by Trister that ACDU0396.ZIP was the #1 downloaded file |158. Two days later Hornet announces the /ansi directory is to be removed in less |15 than 48 hours, without explanation or warning |159. Trixter and Snowman come up with a new bullshit reason everytime they are |15 asked about the decision |15 |08------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |07 |07 As you can see, there are clearly other reasons involved here, after |07 the masses of email, and some voice calls, the best reasons the hornet |07 people could come up with were still ridiculous. |07 |08------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |08 |08Return-Path: trixter@mcs.com |08Subject: Re: !Conclusion - [CDROM.COM] Some problems |08To: radman@acid.org (RaD Man) |08Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 11:21:05 -0600 (CST) |08From: "Trixter / Hornet" |08 |08> Pls see comments and replies below... Thx /RM |08 |08Well, Snowman and I talked, and here is Snowman's official response |08in regard to the removal of the /ansi directory from ftp.cdrom.com |08(please redistribute this throughout your organization): |08 |08I can give you a very simple reason why ansi was removed from our |08site. The amount of maintenance required to keep order in the |08/incoming/ansi directory was disproportionate to the number of |08files uploaded there. |08 |08In the /incoming/demos directory, about 1 file in 8 is missing a .txt file. |08In the /incoming/ansi directory, about 1 file in 4 _has_ a .txt file. |08 |08I can not recall any time in the past year when any file was |08obnoxiously named in /incoming/demos or /incoming/music. In |08comparison, I can recall three incidents in /incoming/ansi where |08a file like "get.ice.pack.12.10.cause.it.rules" was uploaded. |08 |08To me it is not even a question of artistic expression of legitimacy |08of ansi/art packs. Rather, my job as demo maintainer is to keep |08the archive flowing in a smooth fashion. The ansi scene has |08irritated me for the past two years by causing a lot of unnecessary |08work that has kept time away from things like DemoNews, our web |08pages, and other personal hobbies. |08 |08Though Trixter and Wonder Monkey may debate whether the ansi/art |08scene is still related to the warez scene, I take a different |08stance. The ansi scene never asked me to have room on our site |08and I never said yes. I find it mildly irritating to be told that |08we are destroying someone's world headquarters when we never even |08knew about them in the first place. |08 |08I don't doubt that groups like ACiD and iCE are doing wonderful |08and pioneering things, raising themselves out of questionable roots. |08However, the ansi scene as a whole is still too young and erratic. |08We can not deal with the organizational challenges that /ansi |08imposes with our current workforce. |08 |08------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |07 |07 I could quote pages and pages of text just like this, most of them |07 with even less substantial reasoning. His main reason seems to be that |07 the directory should be removed because of the 'connection between the |07 art and warez scenes'. I can actualy quote him as saying |08'How do you |08 think the ansi artists are payed?, with file points by warez sysops' |07 I could give you millions of misinformed quotes from this guys head, he |07 even admitted to not looking through an art pack since 1993,but instead |07 I will just try to end it on a more mature note. If you feel strongly |07 about this, as alot of us do, please email |15TRIXTER@MCS.COM|07. Please |07 dont send a blatant hate mail or a mail bomb, as you just make the art |07 scene look worse. thanks. |07 |07 |07 |03key : |07normal text, |15good point, |08complete bullshit |07 |07 thanks to radman,hooch, and all the acid guys for the help with this article |07 |07 |04 |07|04,s$|07 |08--|07 |08-|07-- -|12--|04,sS�'"�Ss,|12-|07-|04 �$$|16|20$|04|16a'"�Ss,|12-|07-- |08-|07-|08-|07 |08- |07 |15s h i v a n|07 |04 `"羲촕#s, $$$$|07|04$|16|20$|04|16$&|07 |15b a s t a r d|07 |08-|07 |08-|07- ---|12-|04�$$$$|12-|07-|04 |16|20$|04|16$$�|07-|04 �$$$ |12-|07-|04 $$$�|07 |12--|07 |08-|07- |08-|07 |04`"�#,sS�"` `"�#,sS�"` |07 |07 article.3 194 |15 |07 Beyond The Horizon Article Copyright 1996 Blade Productions |13 栢幡 賽 栢幡賽賽賽賽賽賽栢� 賽賽賽� |08------------------------------------------ |13 栢꿉栢� 栢� 複꿉栢� 複꿉栢� 複꿉栢� |15Pascal Ansi Display |13 栢� 栢� 栢� 栢� 栢� 栢� 栢� 栢� 栢� |13 栢� 栢� 栢� 栢� 栢� 栢� 栢� 栢� 栢� |08author: |07shivan bastard |13 栢� 栢� 栢� 栢� 栢� 栢� 栢� 栢� 栢� |08date: |07March 16, 1996 |13 栢� 栢� 栢� 栢� 栢� 栢� 栢� 栢幡賽� |08subject: |07programming |13 栢� 栢� 栢� 賞白栢� 栢� 栢� 栢� 栢� |08------------------------------------------ |13 賽� mb! 署� 賽� 婦賽� 賽� |13 賽 |07 |07 |07 ANSi is a very efficient way to display low resolution graphics in simple |07 programs. Pascal offers many different ways to display ANSI graphics, the 3 |07 most common are : pascal saved, linked obj's, and displaying from disk. I |07 will briefly explain the pro's and con's of each, as well as give some example |07 code. I hope this is helpful to all the new pascal coders out there. |07 |07 |08 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |08 � 같 같같같같같같같같같같굅굇굉� |15Pascal Saved|08 굉굇굅굅같같같같같같같같같 같 � |08 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |07 |07 Pascal Saved is a term i use to define Ansi's saved in pascal format from |07 within your favorite Ansi editor. TheDraw, ACiDDraw Artworx, and most others |07 offer this feature. If you open up the .PAS file that is created, you will |07 notice a very large array that looks something like this : |07 |15 { Image Saved In ACiDDRAW v1.2} |07 |15 Const |15 ACiDDRAW_IMAGE_WIDTH = 80; |15 ACiDDRAW_IMAGE_DEPTH = 21; |15 ACiDDRAW_IMAGE : Array [1..3360] Of Char = ( |15 ' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007, |15 ' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007, |15 ' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007, |15 ' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007, |15 ' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007, |15 ' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007, |15 ' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007, |15 ' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007, |15 ' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007, |15 ' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007,' ',#007,' '); |07 |07 To know how this works, you first have to know something about video memory. |07 Video memory is in the form : character, attributes. So every character |07 displayed on the screen uses 2 bytes of video memory, one for the character, |07 and one for the display attributes. This is why pascal saved is so easy, |07 the above array is structured just like video memory, all you have to do to |07 display it is move its contents directly to video memory using the |07 MOVE(source,destination,size) command. The source would be your array, the |07 destination would be video memory (mem[$b800:0] for vga systems) and the size |07 would be SIZEOF(array). For a small example, suppose you saved a ansi in |07 pascal format and named it 'ACIDANS.PAS' when it asked you for an array name, |07 you chose ACIDDRAW_IMAGE. |07 |08 ------------- cut here ------------------------------------------------------ |08 program BTH_PASCAL_SAVED_EXAMPLE; |08 uses crt,dos; {get into the habit of always using these} |08 {$I acidans.pas} |08 begin |08 move(aciddraw_image,mem[$b800:0],sizeof(aciddraw_image)); |08 end. |08 ------------- and here ------------------------------------------------------ |07 |07 Pros : easy to use |07 |07 Cons : hard to create an ansi scroller |07 ansis cant be more than 400 lines (64k array limit) |07 adds alot of memory to the data segment |07 |07 |08 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |08 � 같 같같같같같같같같같같굅굇굉� |15Linked OBJ's|08 굉굇굅굅같같같같같같같같같 같 � |08 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |07 |07 Linked OBJ's are just as easy to use as pascal saved files. All you do is |07 save an ansi in BINARY format (.BIN). Binary format is just like video |07 memory, charater,attributes,character attributes, ... This makes is very easy |07 to move to video memory just like we did with the pascal saved ansi. However |07 alot of new programmers cant figure out how to link the BIN file into there |07 EXE. If your using Turbo Pascal, or Borland Pascal, there should be a very |07 usefull utility called BINOBJ in your tp/bin directory. This file converts a |07 BIN into a OBJ which can then easily be linked into your programs. BINOBJ |07 asks for 3 parameters. The BIN file name, the OBJ file to be made, and the |07 procedure name. This method is very similar to the pascal saved method, but |07 it uses the code segment instead of the data segment to store the data, which |07 is much more usefull in large programs. |07 To Link the OBJ into your program, you must use the {$L file} directive. |07 You also must declare the procedure as external. Assuming we created a bin |07 named ansi.bin, then converted it to an OBJ using BINOBJ, and passed MYANSI |07 as the 3rd parameter, this is what the code would look like : |07 |08 ------------- cut here ------------------------------------------------------ |08 program BTH_LINKED_OBJ_EXAMPLE; |08 uses crt,dos; |08 {$l ansi.obj} |08 procedure myansi;external; |08 begin |08 move(@myansi^,mem[$b800:0],4000); |08 end. |08 ------------- and here ------------------------------------------------------ |07 |07 Pros : Easy to use |07 Ansi is stored in code segment instead of data segemnt |07 Filesize, memory requirements slightly better. |07 Easy to create a ansi scroller from this |07 |07 Cons : Requires BINOBJ (turbo/borland pascal only i think) |07 |07 |08 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |08 � 같 같같같같같같같같같같갚갚굇껑 |15From Disk|08 굉굇굅굅같같같같같같같같같같 같 � |08 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |07 |07 From Disk is a term i made up to describe ansis displayed directly from the |07 disk, not linked into the program in anyway. ANSI files in this format |07 require one of two things. ANSI.SYS loaded on your computer, or your own ANSI |07 translating routines. Writing your own ANSI translating procedures is a very |07 tedious job, there are alot of escape sequences in the MS-DOS ANSI standard. |07 You can always look in SWAG for these routines, or you can use a much simpler |07 method, using the CRT unit. |07 |08 ------------- cut here ------------------------------------------------------ |08 Procedure BTH_FROM_DISK_EXAMPLE; |08 uses crt,dos; |08 var ansi,screen:text; |08 ch:char; |08 begin |08 directvideo := false; |08 Assign(screen, '');Rewrite(screen); |08 Assign(ansi,'ansi.ans');Reset(ansi); |08 repeat |08 read(ansi,ch);write(screen,ch); |08 until eof(ansi); |08 close(ansi);readkey; |08 close(screen);directvideo:=true; |08 end; |08 ------------- and here ------------------------------------------------------ |07 |07 This method redirects the output to be automaticaly parsed for |07 ansi sequences by the operating system |07 |07 |07 Pros : ANSI file does not have to be linked to EXE |07 You could prompt user for ANSI to display. |07 No extra filesize is added to exe. |07 No extra memory requirements (one byte for the char ;) |07 A scroller can be created by blockreading the screen |07 one line at a time, after its displayed. |07 |07 Cons : Slower to display |07 Requires ANSI.SYS be loaded. |07 |07 |08 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |08 � 같 같같같같같같같같같같갚갚굇껑 |15Conclusion|08 굉굇굅굅같같같같같같같같같� 같 � |08 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |07 |07 Well that does it for my first programming article. This was about as basic |07 as im going to get in these things. Next month I plan on writing about the |07 VGA pallete and how to use it for smooth textmode effects (fading,flashing,.) |07 I also plan a tutorial on textmode smoothscrolling soon. If you have any |07 questions or comments you can contact me one of the following ways ... |07 |07 internet : |07 |15 http://jax.gulfnet.com/user_pages/murray |07 |07 bbs : |07 |15 Nuclear Holocaust 1-904-824-5328 |07 |04 |07 |04,s$|07 |08--|07 |08-|07 -- -|12--|04,sS�'"�Ss,|12-|07-|04 �$$|04$|04a'"�Ss,|12-|07-- |08-|07-|08-|07 |08- |07 |15s h i v a n|07 |04 `"羲촕#s, $$$$|07 |04$|04$|04$&|07 |15b a s t a r d|07 |08-|07 |08-|07- ---|12-|04�$$$$|12-|07-|04 |04$|04$$�|07-|04 �$$$ |12-|07-|04 $$$�|07 |12--|07 |08-|07- |08-|07 |04`"�#,sS�"` `"�#,sS�"` |07 article.4 35 |15 |15 Beyond The Horizon Writers Needed April 1st, 1996 |08 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |07 This issue, as most issues of any publication, was delayed due to a lack of |07 content, to prevent this from happening in the future, we are trying to recruit |07 more writers from the scene. There are no qualifications to write for BTH, |07 however your article must be relevant, well written, and to the point. This |07 issue also unveils a new reader interface that allows PIPE CODES. This means |07 ANSI articles! Ansi tutorials, color articles, alot more is possible with the |07 new color interface. In future issues, a ANSI -> Pipe code coverter will be |07 included in the zip, but for the time being youll need to do it by hand. Here |07 is a quick index of pipe codes. |07 |07 |15 Foreground Colors |15 |0101 |0202 |0303 |0404 |0505 |0606 |0707 |0808 |0909 |1010 |1111 |1212 |1313 |1414 |1515 |15 |15 |15 Background Colors |15 |1616 |1717|16 |1818|16 |1919|16 |2020|16 |2121|16 |2222|16 |2323|16 |07 |07 |07 Blinking Colors, and iCE color are scheduled for future development, but for |07 now, you will find the colors above give you WAY more power than the typical |07 emag article. One you have completed your article, and added a few pipe codes |07 to give it some spice (not neccesary), you can submit it one of these ways .. |07 |07 via IRC - dcc it to |15Mindcrime, |07or |15ShivBast |07 via email - file attach it to |15mc@acid.org|07 or |15shivan@acid.org |07 via bbs - upload it to AlderAAn |08(|15908|08)|15224|08-|154878 article.5 134 ---(making an eggdrop bot)-----(hack)---------- Okay.. you want to set up an eggdrop bot.. okay that's cool.. you're gonna need some shit though.. here is what you will need.. 1) the eggdrop file ftp.lightning.net /pub/eggdrop/eggdrop0.9tp.tar.gz (this may be a later file) 2) permission from whoever that channel "belongs" too.. if this channel is for a group.. then ask the group leader/prez.. if this belongs to a group of friends than ask everybody. WARNING: NOT EVERYONE LOVES A BOT! (inside joke) 3a) a shell account (preferably with tcl) What is tcl? TCL is a scripting language.. it will allow your bot to have add-ons and do some more advanced shit.. to check if you have TCL on your script logon and type "tclsh" and then "exit".. you should have gotten a "%" prompt.. if so.. your in buisness.. :>.. 3b) space on that shell account.. this baby is big.. Okay.. that is about all you need to start.. -/- Getting EGGDROP all un-everythinged on your shell space -/- (type the following from your home dir.. be sure the archive is on your ~/ otherwise this will be hard...) 1) gzip -d eggdrop0.9tp.tar.gz 2) tar -xf eggdrop0.9tp.tar 3) cd eggdrop0.9 4) ./configure 5) (you may want to edit the /src/eggdrop.h file) 6) make if you had any problems with the preceding instructions you need to have your head examened.. (or /j #eggdrop we'll see what we can do to help.. just say you read this article and I'll help) -/- COOL! you should have everything set to customize this badboy -/- IF YOU HAVE TCL READ ON! IF NOT GOTO STEP NON-TCL CONFIG! 1) you can either grab the file "lamestbot" from your shell via private ftp to your server or you can sz it.. 2) edit that motha!.. make sure it's EXACTLY how you want it.. or you may end up screwing yourself.. 3) okay.. upload it (rz) if you edited it locally.. 4) rename from lamestbot to *** NON-TCL CONFIG 1) you can either grab the file "egg.config.dist" from your shell via private ftp to your server or you can sz it.. 2) edit that motha!.. make sure it's EXACTLY how you want it.. or you may end up screwing yourself.. 3) okay.. upload it (rz) if you edited it locally.. 4) rename it to (important) - Make sure default flag is +x (not +px) .. people can fuck with your bot big-time (even though it's not destructive.. normally).. it's just a bad idea.. give it to them if you think they won't abuse the privlage.. -/- Great.. your all customized.. -/- Now you need to start that bitch of yours up.. this is a good time to be in PPP/CSLIP.. Why? becuase the first person to /msg yourbot hello will get masters.. better hope it's you.. :>.. actually you should have changed hello to something different (becuase of this and IRCops use hello to kline bots.. not good). So .. your all set.. MiRC in one window you shell in another.. here's what you do!.. 1) eggdrop -m 2) now /msg 3) type in your shell "chmod u+x (this will only work if the top of your script has the path to your bot in it) 4) edit the botchk script.. there are options in there for reloading the bot if it were to go down -/- By now have a bot in your channel! -/- Okay.. initiate a DCC CHAT (/dcc chat ) with your bot.. you should have masters.. make yourself all cool... by doing this in the dcc chat (this is much easier in mIRC) .chattr (you) +mofxpn (CHange ATTRibutes) m=Masters / o=Ops / f=Friend / x=file area / p=Partyline(chat) / n = owNer Have the people in your channel introduce themselves to the bot.. you will see them "Introduced To Newuser".. now you can chattr them too .chattr (a normal op) +opx .chattr (a person in charge) +opxmf Now do a .help .. this will give you a crapload of commands.. just do a .help (command) this will allow you to learn.. you can do a LOT through dcc chat.. set up bans, add users, rehash, change options, KILL THE BOT!, and fun other things.. -/- You're pretty much set up.. -/- I hope this has helped you on your venture in setting up an eggdrop.. if you need any help /join #eggdrop and talk to me or CFusion.. we're both pretty cool guys.. :>... |08-/- Aren't these |10-/- |08things dorky?! -/- I'm done. |10h|03ack/(hk) (blade/wicked/m|10O|03p) |03hack@industry|10-|03dm.com (master in #eggdrop / #acid / #mop) |07 ** greets: shivan - you rule pushead - last night was great mindcrime - mimeslime bedlam - you CAN draw 7deg/sinned/nd - phluid is getting some new shit.. it's gonna rule ** fuckyou: tguardian - :> meltdwn - fuck off.. I don't care who the hell you are.. fuck off.. ** group greets: acidICEmopWICKEDbladeACIDICciaBLINDdark article.6 86 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |08� 같 같같같� 같같같같같같굅굇굉� |15Rumor Wall |08굉굇굅굅같같같같같� 같같같같 같 � |07----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yet another installment of the BTH rumor wall. The place where we forget all about the the moral ethics of bringing you the truth, and just make a bunch of shit up. |15+- - ------ - |07The Ansi directory on wuarchive.wustl.edu was removed because, trixter of hornet found the copy of adobe photoshop that pushead uploaded there, and informed the maintainers. everyone is now encouraged to use the /ART directory on wuarchive, also please NEVER upload pirated files to a huge public ftp site, second offense usually results in arrest. the March ice pack is rumored to have kicked so much ass, that neurotic and tempus thales came out of retirement to contribute. www.ice.org will soon be operational (they said that 1 year ago) it has a t1 connect, and a great team of coders working on it. ftp.ice.org will also be up at the same time. We here at bth would like to apologize for a rumor last month stating that 'cia is finally dead' we were of course refering to the Central Indonesian Alliance. but the cia art group took it personaly with a lame retaliation in there little conspiracy. We realize now that neither cia is dead. The CIA art group just fooled us when we learned that cia stood for "crappy inbread artists" ;p Syntax error is "swaying" all ice members to stop dualing. Alot of artists take this very seriosly, hopefully he will learn from radmans mistake about the holy no dualing rule in ACiD. Infinity Emag will release its fairwell issue this month, the content is mostly from 1995 and it has gone through a string of coders until sdeath finally picked up the slack. The coding looks great, for some reason the christmas articles, and reviews of the march 1982 acid pack dont impress me. A string of lame emags by noname #ansi lamers were released this month, i would recommend virus checking everything you get from irc, it wasn't infinity,cnb,rift,or doodle, but one of the others had tai-pan in it. Somms is a professional comic artist now? Beyond The Horizon Issue #3 set a record for the most downloads of ANY emag from the /ansi directory on ftp.cdrom.com .. BTH #3 received over 100 dcc gets a day, in the first week of its release. (Editor's Note : Uhm, Really?) KMFM (biggest music group in the world) has broken apart? The mOp WWW Page is undertaking a complete overhaul to keep pace with the New Designs of the ACiD and iCE pages. Cybernary is also getting together a Fire Web Page. ASM '96 was canceled, primarily because there was too much damage, and not all the prizes were paid, it is unclear whether ASM '97 will happen. Pushead and Shivan Bastard have decided to unveil their secret Jeriko One plan. It is much too intense to be revealed all at once, the first step of enlightenment is to go to www.strangedays.com/jeriko.htm, click on message then play the .MOV file backwords, and listen till he says "I'm MC Hammer" The FBI is currently ecstatic about catching the unabomber; unfortunatly we all know who the REAL unabomber is, and he left the scene to go with God. Good luck, Chromatik! After being brutally beaten by his mother for forgetting to take out the trash, Maytrickz was rushed to the hospital where he underwent critical surgery to repair his brain. Unfortunatly, the doctor's found out that he didn't even have a brain, and were forced to pull the plug. Maytrickz is now enjoying a warm vacation in hell. After the death of Maytrickz, #ansi fell into the tyrannical rule of Scribble. Unfortunatly for him, he has no skills so it was just regained after about 10 minutes by Cerkit. We are told that Scribble is now in seclusion, mourning over the death of his idle, Maytrickz. |15+- - ----- - |07Many of the above rumors are just figments of our sick imaginations. Unfortunatly, some of them are actually quite true. We'll leave the decision up to you. |15- beyond the horizon staff article.7 57 revival (ri-vi'vel) n. 1. the act of reviving or the state of being revived. 2. a new presentation, as of a play. 3. a meeting or a series of meetings for reawakening religious faith. Who? have no false illusions, revival is not just a group, our main purpose is to bring back competition within the literature scene, a scene which has been lacking. we claim one of the best writing staffs, and strong backing from our mother group CiA. we do not pretend to be the best, or be like any other literature group. as the volkswagen comercial says, "in life there are passangers and drivers...". we serve one function, like lucifer, the fallen angel, lead mankind unto better things. once a revival member, always a revival member.... When? revival was founded in December 1995. we have released three packs so far (current release dates are set for the 15th), and we are now working on number four. Why? the literature scene has for years suffered through people that never could read lit, or even pretend to write it. some of the best writers we've known have given up, and abandoned this form of art. we understand that knowledge will always have a bitter taste, and forever we pity those who can't think for their own. How? releasing packs is not the only way to achieve revival. we ask all people that can not join us, for whatever reason, to rival us. greatness is a myth misunderstood, and it does not remain our purpose. we don't expect rebirth right away... but as time has progressed our goal becomes more and more lucid. Where? revival can be found at the current world hq, High Fidelity at 217-874-2442, on the internet at: revival@one.net, and now on irc on #lit. we are not currently accepting distribution sites, and we ask for all requests to be in e:mail private to Mister E. writers are always urged to apply. Because... there is no respect for true art... we rage on. the scene is centered around advertising, and it will fall. hence this struggle to revive. (c) mysterious productions 1996 literary scene revival article.8 101 |07 Beyond The Horizon Article Copyright 1996 Beyond Enterprises |13 긁� � 같複複殯昉굅 � |13 긋 査昉� 複兵栢꿉賽賽 複� |13 꾼栢꿉煞 栢� 같 査� nt |13 같複兵꾼幡 � 殯� 갛百같複� |13� 갚꿉賽 賽賞百� 栢� 蔔昉賽賽栢棚 |13 같 殯栢� 査껑 査꿉 殯栢� |13 蔔昉� 蔔꿉 갛껐 蔔蔔� |13 같긁査꿉賽 � � 갚굅 � 굉幡薩 |13 賽� � � |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |08� 같 같같같갚갚굇껑 |15quotes from the underground |08굉굇굅굅같같같 같 � |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ seriously, learning how to hex-edit is the closest thing to talking to god i've ever experienced.. ;> hooch@erebus.magsystems.com erebus (201-762-1373) (acid/y0lk) |15--------------------------------------------------------------- |07hi hi. is blacknet new? i don't recall seeing it before. maybe it snook up on you and like set itself up or something. dunno. if you want, i'll kick its ass! nobody fronts on this board. setting itself up without you knowing about it. punk. shit, niggah. i'm gonna fuck dat shit up! - belial, after finding a new network on alderaan. |15--------------------------------------------------------------- |07heh.. i always thought she was the ugliest chick on television during the "saved by the bell" days.. it's funny what a little makeup and a thigh master can do. aState@naplesnet.com?!.. (On Showgirls star Elizabeth Burkley) |15--------------------------------------------------------------- |07 mC: eye will br1ng muh f3rret t0 j0ur h0us2. h3 w1ll h4x0r 1t. |15--------------------------------------------------------------- |07I run 37 different groups, 14 nets, 7 emags, and a high-budget TV Sitcom... Okay, not really, but it seems that way sometimes - mindcrime, when asked what group he was in. |15--------------------------------------------------------------- |07 SCORE: CERKIT 1 PIZZA 0 eLLIO'S WILL FALL TO MY KNEE'S bahahha.. Cerkit is fighting with the pizza. mindcrime; i am the pedator, it is the prey. i must eat to survive "watch as the species known as cerkius maximus heads towards his prey neo pizzamonimer.. the pizza doesn't notice the slow, cat-like motions of cerkit.." "and then.. all at once.. cerkit punces on the pizza.. and in a quick snap of his jaw.. the little morsal is gone" "the appetizer..of the common computer nerius loonimus geekiheimer" man. i suppose i should check on that pizza.. thick black smoke is normally an indication.. * cerkit is gone (Rec On) - compiling food |15---------------------------------------------------------------- |07"i do not, have never, and will never phear mogel." - mindcrime, after reading dto issue 8. |15---------------------------------------------------------------- |07"my philosophy has always been, if it works, rip it" - bedlam |15---------------------------------------------------------------- |07"if it wasn't for insomniacs, the scene probably wouldn't even exist" - neurotic |15---------------------------------------------------------------- |07 when i get this fucking .s3m player working it's gunna be a 1 man rave in my room. |15---------------------------------------------------------------- |07 contrary to popular belief, irc was not made simply to help young males and females procreate. |15---------------------------------------------------------------- |07 diocese.. my machine reboots when i start upo RIFT0396.EXE |15---------------------------------------------------------------- article.9 1 dumb article.10 1 review.1 210 The March 1996 ACiD Acquisition 賽栢栢TM � 賽賽꾼栢賞栢幡賽栢栢賽賽賽栢栢賽賞栢껐 蔔栢賽賞栢� 蔔栢� 栢栢겡栢昉栢百 栢昉� 갛栢百 � 賽幡百 栢栢賞栢賽賞栢� 栢栢 賞栢� 白蔔賞栢白 栢栢査百 � 査百 賞栢� 栢栢 賞栢方栢栢 賞栢� 賞白複栢� 査栢� 栢栢 査栢朋栢� 査栢朋栢� 栢栢 蔔栢� 蔔栢幡 蔔栢� 蔔栢� 蔔栢� 栢栢 蔔栢� 栢栢 査栢百 栢栢査栢� 賽賽unS栢栢査栢� � 견 賞栢白複栢栢蔔栢白複� 栢栢蔔栢白複白蔔 A C i D P R O D U C T I O N S 1 9 9 6 where it all began. ACDU0396.ZIP ::: Reviewed by Trip of Apathy Productions! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |08� 같 같같같갚갚굇껑 |15Individual Art Comments |08굉굇굅굅같같같 같 � |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |15Filename Artist Comments|07 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- AL-SUCCO RIP Alien Really nice little pic, although the detail was a bit too suttle. great font, again, too suttle. |08........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 AN-GEHEN ANS Anubis Not NEARLY enough detail. Some nice highlights here and there , but its just not enough...... |08........................< |155/10 |08>..|07 AZ-FOR1 ANS Azrael I can see what you're trying to do here, but it could have been so much better. Poor fonts. |08........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 AZ-PIR1 ANS Azrael This one is better. Very nice oldschool/new- school mix of shading styles. Better fonts. |08........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 AZ-SUCCO RIP Azrael N0W WE'RE TALKIN. Amazing rip. Great detail, fine shading, an overall great rip. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 BG-CW01 RIP Black Guard Really nice pic. The flames were a bit cheezy, and the font was boring. But a nice pic. |08........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 BG-FKSN1 RIP Black Guard MAN. This was looking SO great, then, it quit displaying. As if you quit. Needed highlights. |08........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 CB-PIR1 GIF Crimeboss Wow!@ Its a skull! With blood and stuff!@#$^ Heh, naw. Its perty. |08........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 CS-ACID2 GIF Catbones A Cat VGA _NOT_ of a skull?!@ I'm amazed! Nice chick, cool font. |08........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 CS-FLAMC GIF Catbones Well, the carrot is ok looking. errgh. Looks like a play doodle. |08........................< |154/10 |08>..|07 CS-FRITZ GIF Catbones Another playtime doodle? |08........................< |154/10 |08>..|07 CS-HEVEN GIF Catbones NOW THATS MORE LIKE IT. DON'T LET ME CATCH YOU GETTING LAME LIKE THAT AGAIN. |08........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 CS-OLSKL GIF Catbones What the hell? I don't see anything other than a font and some purple stuff. |08........................< |154/10 |08>..|07 CS-RAVE1 GIF Catbones You connot fake the Fraetta funk, do not even try. Stick to your skulls and chicks, please. |08........................< |155/10 |08>..|07 CS-SUBBS GIF Catbones Wee! A comic rip from Catbones. A rare thing. Nice highlights/fonts/subliminal sexual msgs. |08........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 CT-HELLH ANS Cool T A bit over shaded, but still nice. ATTENTION: IT IS NO LONGER 1992. GET WITH THE PROGRAM.:> |08........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 DE-DOH GIF Diocese Eeew. Too bland, Eeew. Its all blurry. Eeew. |08........................< |154/10 |08>..|07 DE-TOKYO GIF Diocese See above review. |08........................< |154/10 |08>..|07 DG-LOSTL RIP Degenerit I phear. Could have use shading tho. I mean, at least some toon shading. |08........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 DG-POO RIP Degenerit This is one of the best rip's i've seen in a long time. Beautiful shades, clean, just great. |08........................< |159/10 |08>..|07 DG-SUCCO RIP Degenerit Uhm, no. Stop doing toons. Toons bad. |08........................< |155/10 |08>..|07 DG-UNITY RIP Degenerit Ahh. Keep doing toons. Shaded toons good. Trip phears. |08........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 GS-GAL1 ANS Ghengis NICE. The face was a bit off, but it was still a great ansi. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 I1-0HOUR GIF Iczer/1 Really cool concept, but not drawn as well as it could have been. More substance. |08........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 I1-ACID1 GIF Iczer/1 Eeew. Boring subject, with some badly done Catbones highlights. |08........................< |155/10 |08>..|07 KH-IDES1 ANS Killa Hertz Really nice. Eyes could have been better. High quality, but lacked that little bit of flare. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 KM-CIVIL ANS King Midas Well drawn, but not nearly what you are capable of. Oh, and try to use more than 1 color. :> |08........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 KM-REGEN ANS King Midas THAT IS MORE FUCKING LIKE IT. SAH-WEET. I can't find anything wrong with that ansi. |08........................< |159/10 |08>..|07 KO-YARD GIF Kosh Poorly rendered, boring subject matter. Someone please explain how this got in the pack. |08........................< |153/10 |08>..|07 KP-RET GIF Kingpin No. Poorly drawn as all hell. |08........................< |152/10 |08>..|07 NIT-POO ANS Nitnatsnoc Theres this thing about "seperating colors".. try it, it would help. |08........................< |153/10 |08>..|07 PH-FFTSL ANS Pharcyde Woa! Who is this guy? Amazing ansi. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 PR-FLESH GIF Primal Yer no Giger, and thats for sure. Sorry. |08........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 PR-SUCCO GIF Primal BLEH!. |08........................< |152/10 |08>..|07 SA-GSCUM ANS Soul Assassin Woa! Didn't know SA did ansi. Nice. Needs work but nice none the less. |08........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 SZ-SE GIF Mr Schizo Hardly anything there, but still mildly appeal- able. Not bad. |08........................< |155/10 |08>..|07 SZ-STRUM GIF Mr Schizo Better. Lacks alot in detail tho. Keep working on it. |08........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 US-LEPH ANS Plague/Unsane Not bad. The pic was a bit dirty, and the fonts were both high grade. |08........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 ZV-HEVEN RIP Zevo Too simplistic. |08........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 ZV-NUCLR RIP Zevo Much better. Unoriginal subject matter, but drawn much better than zv-heven. |08........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |08� 같 같같같같같같같굅굇굉� |15Best Picks |08 굉굇굅굅같같같같같같� 같 � |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Best ANSI : KM-REGEN.ANS by King Midas Best VGA : CS-HEVEN.GIF by Catbones ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |08� 같 같같같같같갚갚굇껑 |15General Comments |08 굉굇굅굅같같같같같 같 � |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Acid has some good up and coming artists, such as Khz and Pharcyde, along with some of the scene's greatest ever, such as King Midas. Now, if Rad Man could just get them to draw more. VGA was WAY below their standard. |07 ,#' |08(|15trip|07::apathy|08) -- -+ review.2 349 � � 婦複 婦複 拙� 蔔� � 兵幡 賞꿀 拙拙 兵� � 賞꿀 拙� 複栢껑�複栢� 굅 査께 �複栢� 兵� 査께 갚 賞旁� �賞껐 굉 賽賞껑 賞方 껑 賽賞껑 � � 꾼� 굅査� 갛께꿀� 署� 꾼� 覆갛複 署� 겡� 굉 꾼� 갛昉幡 婦 껑겡幡賽� 꿉� � 兵 글旁 � 글껑 굉 複昉� � 글旁 굅 複栢� � 꾼幡 � 複긋 굅 賞昉� 꿀께 � 三꾼丙 �霜栢� 賽昉꿀� 賽賽栢껐글幡 � 賽賽賽昉� - 三껑� - 賞百 1/2 殯괆三� March 1996査� sg 굅 殯 � 署 iCEPack �� � �� ICE9603?.ZIP ::: Reviewed by Mindcrime of Blade Productions! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |08� 같 같같같갚갚굇껑 |15Individual Art Comments |08굉굇굅굅같같같 같 � |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |15Filename Artist Comments|07 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- AT-SLOTH ICE Aphid Twix Rad ass maxx ansi. Definitly in the spirit of Aphex Twin, who just rocks at this type of ansi. Quite nice, with a most triumphant font. |08........................<|158.5/10|08>..|07 CC-BTH ICE Corpulant Cow Hmm, Maybe I should be reviewing an ansi for our very own mag, but anyways... Pretty cool. The font is way lame, but the pic itself is preety cool. Shading could have used some work. |08........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 CU-R666 ICE Cold And Ugly Pretty cool pic. The shading and color are quite cool, but the definition and composition could have used alot more work. |08........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 CU-YAWN ICE Cold And Ugly Once again, colors and shading are good, but the composition is weak and proportions are slightly off at parts. Needs much work on the faces. |08........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 LM-FC1 ICE Lemonade COol matrix ansi. Good composition, nice colors and shading. |08........................<|157.5/10|08>..|07 LM-FC2 ICE Lemonade VERY nice pic. GREAT representation of Pitt, excellent colors and shading, nice font. Well done! |08........................< |159/10 |08>..|07 LM-POO1 ICE Lemonade Holy old school font! Ehe.. Nice pic, good shading, Nice definition. Colors are decent, the face could have used some more. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 MM-RAI1 ICE Magnetic M Rad! ehe.. Nice slug looking thing. Good colors, great shading (Magnetic M style, of course). Cool font. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 NC-FIN ICE Neurotic Could have used a better font. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 RI-APOC ICE Rai Roq! Man, I wish Rai never left blade . Very nice ansi. Awesome shading and colors, great composition. |08........................< |159/10 |08>..|07 RI-EVIL ICE Rai Excellent. Rai excels at anime these days. Great colors, excellent shading, phat font. |08........................< |159/10 |08>..|07 RI-PIC1 ICE Rai Most excellent pics. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 RI-SPHER ICE Rai The font is kinda ugly, could have used better colors/shading/comp. The pic itself is quite cool, although lacking any cool colors. |08........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 SG-ICE96 ICE Snake Grunger Very nice ansi. Great colors, good shading, most excellent composition. The font just plain rocks. |08........................<|158.5/10|08>..|07 TE-HD1 ICE Tetanus Rad matrix. Good colors, decent shading. Good use of the space provided. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 TG-FW1 ICE Toon Goon Great pic. Awesome colors, good shading, great composition. The font just kicks ass (by iodine). |08........................<|158.5/10|08>..|07 TG-RATS4 ICE Toon Goon Toon Goon is the god of ansi eyes. Man, those just rock. The faces themselves could have used more work, shading and composition. Nice font. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 TG-SAB1 ICE Toon Goon Most bodacious pic. Good shading, nice comp. Good font. The colors roq. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 TG-UTWO1 ICE Toon Goon What the HELL is that?! ehe. Nice shading, great colors. That font just kicks some major ass! |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 US-APOC ICE Corpcow/Tempus Ugh.. I hope tempus didn't to alot of this ansi, because he can do MUCH better. The shading and colors are ugly. |08........................< |155/10 |08>..|07 US-AWARP ICE Magnetic M/Extr Pretty rad pic, good colors and decent toony shading. Font could have used work. |08........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 US-ICE13 ICE Nailz/Lord Soth Wow.. That rules. Great shading, great colors, fucking awesome composition. Background could have used more work to complete the pic. Overall quite nice. |08........................< |159/10 |08>..|07 US-ICE14 ICE Rai/Grendel/Spl Pretty cool anime type ansi. The shading could have been better, especially on the hair. The fonts are quite cool. |08........................<|157.5/10|08>..|07 US-MAGIR ICE Rai/Napam Very nice. Great colors, good shading, decent font. Could have used more.. uhm.. stuff in it, it was pretty plain. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 ZK-JS1 ICE Zarkon Hmm.. Decent shading and colors, but the composition could have used more work. Background was nice, and the fonts are decent. |08........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 ZK-SD1 ICE Zarkon Hmm.. This guys ansi's are kinda iffy. The face on this one could use alot of work, but the body is decent. The font is quite cool, and the shading and colors work. |08........................<|156.5/10|08>..|07 ZK-SOC ICE Zarkon Nice pic. Great colors and definition. The shading is quite good. I like this pic. Could have used a better font. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 ZK-SUCCO ICE Zarkon Nice pic. Good definition and colors on the body, the face is okay but not perfect. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 AX-CDI3 ICE Apox Nice font. Good shading and colors, great composition. (Belial gives it two thumbs up!) |08........................< |159/10 |08>..|07 BD-LG1 ICE Jailbird Mostly ugly fonts, some were decently shaded. Needs to work on composition. |08........................< |155/10 |08>..|07 CU-GLOBE ICE Cold And Ugly Okay font. Needs a background, and the main font needs better definition. |08........................< |155/10 |08>..|07 CU-R666M ICE Cold And Ugly Pretty rad font. Good colors, but the shading is a little odd. |08........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 CU-TREM ICE Cold And Ugly This font starts out kinda cool, but the composition needs major work. Decent colors. The shading could use work, too. |08........................< |155/10 |08>..|07 PA-ICEX ICE Parasite Rad font. Great colors, good composition. Nice shading. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 SG2-LG10 ICE Squidgalator II Nice fonts. Great use of colors. I especially liked the one blue skull/logo. Quite nice. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 TE-LGO2 ICE Tetanus Nice fonts. Decent use of color, nice shading. |08........................<|157.5/10|08>..|07 TG-LCOL1 ICE Toon Goon Standard TG fonts, pretty nice. |08........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 TNA-BENT ICE The Night Angel Decent font. The shading and color is good, but the composition could have used alot more work. |08........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 US-GD3 ICE Lemonade/Apox Nice font. Good colors, great composition, very nice shading. Well done. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 US-SUI ICE BoA/Cold n Ugly Decent font, composition could have used more work. Shading is decent, but could have used more colors or something. |08........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 CD-SG ICE Count Drakula Never was one for these sideways ansis, and this one is no exception. The colors and shading need work, as does the composition. |08........................< |155/10 |08>..|07 NF-MEND ICE Necrofiliac Hmm.. Pretty bad. The colors and shading need alot of work, and the composition is just lame. Nice font, though. |08........................< |155/10 |08>..|07 NF-ML ICE Necrofiliac Woah. The proportions on this are all wacky! Bad shading and composition, colors are alright. |08........................< |154/10 |08>..|07 NF-RAT ICE Necrofiliac Decent pic. Uhm. Nothing more to say.. |08........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 NF-SLOTH ICE Necrofiliac Pretty nice pic. The composition could have used some more work, but the colors and shading are quite nice. |08........................<|157.5/10|08>..|07 SP-ICE ICE Sparr The background isn't all that good, but the font itself is very nice. Good use of black and white. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 SP-MLAND ICE Sparr The shading and colors on this font are just lazy and lame, but the composition is pretty nice. |08........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 SP-PBRK ICE Sparr Hmm.. Very nice background and font, and the pic is pretty good, but is a little warped. |08........................<|157.5/10|08>..|07 SP-RNEST ICE Sparr Very nice font. Good use of greyscale. Nice shading, great composition. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 TH-FICO ICE Thrasher Pretty nice toon-like pic. Great colors, good shading, nice composition. The font is quite cool as well. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 TH-GEL1 ICE Thrasher Nice ansi, but could have used more work around the teeth. Font is lame. |08........................<|156.5/10|08>..|07 TK-REBEL ICE The Knight The font is kinda lame, but the pic is pretty nice. Good colors and composition, nice shading. |08........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 TL-RALPH ICE Tung Lo Good colors and shading, decent composition. Background could have used work, and the font is quite lame. |08........................<|156.5/10|08>..|07 ANA-ELF JPG Anarchy Good use of greyscale, nice pic. The face is kinda bony, but the rest is nice. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 AZ-TIME JPG Azagothh This totally rocks. Great rendering and stuff. Awesome colors. |08........................<|159.5/10|08>..|07 BN-SKLC1 GIF Borian Typical Borian, but he rocks so it works. I love the darkness. Rad font, and good integration between pic and font. Borian needs a new sig, though. |08........................< |159/10 |08>..|07 DI-ZZ JPG Digital Interfa Nice rendering, great colors. |08........................<|158.5/10|08>..|07 IS-TSGD JPG Isosceles Pretty cool. Awesome colors, and good work with the fonts. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 JA-NW1 JPG The Knight Bad composition and the colors don't work well together. Standard font. |08........................< |155/10 |08>..|07 KB-ARMG1 JPG Kabal 13 Why would I review scanned in hand art? |08........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 KB-ICE JPG Kabal 13 Decent colors, but the font could have used a better composition. |08........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 KB-INFR JPG Kabal 13 What the hell is this? I could make that in photoshop in 10 minutes. |08........................< |154/10 |08>..|07 KB-KABAL JPG Kabal 13 Pretty decent, but I don't like how he incorperates ink drawings in the vga. |08........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 OB-ALIEN JPG Obsidian Nice rendering and stuff. Great spaceship, decent background. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 SD-RN01 GIF Stolen Faith Asside from the font, this vga rocks. The sword in the stone deal is just totally cool. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 SH-TITAN JPG Shiva Nice vga. Cool concept and well drawn. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 TD-EMOTI JPG Tonedef Rad! That logo totally rocks. great color use, nice composition. Very nice. |08........................< |159/10 |08>..|07 TD-ICEPG JPG Tonedef Great concept, and well drawn. The font is kinda generic, but the other stuff is quite cool. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 TE-ANKH1 GIF Tetanus Decent Logo, easily done in photoshop. Could have used more colors. |08........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |08� 같 같같같같같같같굅굇굉� |15Best Picks |08 굉굇굅굅같같같같같같� 같 � |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Best ANSI : LM-FC2.ICE by Lemonade US-ICE13.ICE by Nailz/Lord Soth Best VGA : AZ-TIME.JPG by Azagoth ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |08� 같 같같같같같갚갚굇껑 |15General Comments |08 굉굇굅굅같같같같같 같 � |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wow. A really amazing pack from ice this month. The ansi was just totally great, including awesome work from the triad of tooners, Magnetic M, Toon Good, and Rai. The vga was sub-par this month, with the exception of the totally rad az-time.jpg. Overall one of the best packs i've seen in quite some time. Good work. |07 ,#' |08(|15mindcrime|07::blade'legacy'acid|08) -- -+ |07.$#. |08(|07close your eyes, you can find all you need in your mind|08) - -+ review.3 225 賽꾼栢白� 같 複複兵栢栢栢幡輻幡複三複 蔔� 白 輻栢輻꾼� 輻꿀栢幡� 蔔魄棚白死査繃� 輻꿈幡 꿀 覆死死査栢輻栢幡 輻幡 꾼� 署꿀白꿉 꿇 署蔔蔔� 賞死三幡 꾼栢霜꿉 三璽� 꾼� 꿀輻꿉輻� 賞蔔� � 꿉輻� � 꾼霜賞賽賽癖霜輻栢複 兵 栢� 꿉蔔� 같 鵬긋死같 幡蔔繃賞 xm긋 꾼� 賞 賞賞百輻蔔賞 賞긁� � 栢� 꿇死 갛昉栢� 賞昉栢겪繃魄 � 死査� 死금梭 蔔꿉 梭栢� 白 꿀� 倂 兵白硼死 꿀栢� 꾼글蔔幡� 같 三� DARK 賽栢輻�03/96賞霜白 蔔賽 DARK9603.ZIP :: Reviewed by Riv of Anger! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |08� 같 같같같갚갚굇껑 |15Individual Art Comments |08굉굇굅굅같같같 같 � |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |15Filename Artist Comments|07 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 4THDS-12.DRK 4th Disciple this one is a bit hard to read at first, but i like the original style and the use of color and the shading. |08........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 4THDS-13.DRK 4th Disciple same as above, and again, the style and color are good. |08........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 4THDS-14.DRK 4th Disciple the cyan and the grey look cool..the black blotches make it hard to read. |08........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 4THDS-15.DRK 4th Disciple the overall form is decent, but the shading on the headgear is too rough...the grey blocks distract from the picture, rather than highlighting it. font is good |08........................< |154/10 |08>..|07 4THDS-16.DRK 4th Disciple very nice..i cant quite tell what everything is, but the artwork looks defined and well shaded..the composition is good and the font is cool. |08........................<|157.5/10|08>..|07 4THDS-17.DRK 4th Disciple this has a nice style. i like it alot. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 ARMGD-02.DRK Armegedon Donut good. the shading and shape are refined and nice looking. the font is cool..defying all color conventions and everything |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 ASOAP-05.DRK Acidic Soap good shading, color, everything. i like the ont. my only gripe is that the sig seems like it takes up 1/3 of the ansi |08........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 CORIN-02.DRK Corinthian good. nice pict of death. alot of people fail to use black right in ansi, but you seem to have grasped it. shading, color are nice. the font is ok |08........................<|156.5/10|08>..|07 CRNFX-02.DRK Carnifex ugh. the pict is kinda nonexistent..i like the font though. Composition needs work |08........................<|154.5/10|08>..|07 DKAGR-07.DRK Dark Agressor ok font.. overused style |08........................<|156.5/10|08>..|07 DKAGR-08.DRK Dark Agressor I like the style..the coloring is a little weird ,but cool |08........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 ENIGM-03.DRK The Enigma very cool pict of silver age xmen character.. the red b/g is a little out of place, but ok. i also like the text and the font |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 NTRPC-05.DRK Nootropic ok.. the unique styling is cool. i like the coloring..it's different :) |08........................<|156.5/10|08>..|07 NTRPC-06.DRK Nootropic i really like this font..the coloring is wicked, and the style is fucking cool. more people should do ansi like this. |08........................<|158.5/10|08>..|07 NTRPC-07.DRK Nootropic this is ok...the style is of course original, but i think it kinda sucked. color is ok |08........................< |155/10 |08>..|07 NTRPC-08.DRK Nootropic good. the little satan people look awesome. coloring is excellent. |08........................<|158.5/10|08>..|07 NTRPC-09.DRK Nootropic good. the font style is cool and the grey shading looks cool. i like. |08........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 NTRPC-10.DRK Nootropic very trippy font. good color and shading as always |08........................<|157.5/10|08>..|07 NTRPC-11.DRK Nootropic nice font style...psychadelic coloring.. |08........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 NTRPC-12.DRK Nootropic nice font..the little alien is cool..the coloring is good |08........................<|156.5/10|08>..|07 POOKA-06.DRK Pooka good. the style is good. the coloring is all good, with the exception of the cyan font outlining, with the red b/g |08........................<|156.5/10|08>..|07 POOKA-07.DRK Pooka the skull is cool looking..the font is ok.. |08........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 POOKA-08.DRK Pooka ok..the b/g artwork is decent, but the actual font kinda sucks. |08........................<|156.5/10|08>..|07 POOKA-09.DRK Pooka good pict. sandman looks cool. sandman is cool looking...the chick's face isnt shaped very well however (looks like a perfect oval) the font is ok |08........................<|156.5/10|08>..|07 POOKA-10.DRK Pooka nice font. weird style, but looks cool. really looks like slime :) |08........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 RAIZE-03.DRK Ra-ize good pic..the shading and color are good. font is good |08........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 SMRAI-01.DRK Samurai i like the spartan head..it looks cool..the shading and color are cool. the font coloring could use some work though. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 SMRAI-02.DRK Samurai woo..the coloring on the head rocks. the inverse grey on the font is cool |08........................<|157.5/10|08>..|07 SMRAI-03.DRK Samurai the hellshock (that is hellshock, right?) figure looks cool..the tundra font needs work though |08........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 STNTC-01.DRK Stone the Crow woo! nekkid chickz! a+ a+ a+...btw..the font kinda sucks |08........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 TGHRN-03.DRK The Green Hornet excellent. a damn fine star wars pict..i always was partial to yoda.. good font |08........................<|158.5/10|08>..|07 TGHRN-04.DRK The Green Hornet cool pict. from gen 13 #5...the font is ok |08........................< |159/10 |08>..|07 TRBLS-02.DRK Tribal Siege kinda crappy..the artwork is decent.. the font is sucky..the pict is sucky.. |08........................< |154/10 |08>..|07 TRBLS-03.DRK Tribal Siege font looks a bit lame..coloring is bad and overall style kinda sucks |08........................< |153/10 |08>..|07 TRBLS-04.DRK Tribal Siege decent..the head shape is ok, but the nose sorta sucks..shading is bad. decent matrix |08........................< |154/10 |08>..|07 TRBLS-05.DRK Tribal Siege kinda sucky..pict is lacking and uninteresting..i think this shows how much shittier original art is compared to comic book stuff. |08........................<|154.5/10|08>..|07 XMTRX-06.DRK Xypher Matrix i dont like the font style..sorry..the coloring could use work also |08........................<|153.5/10|08>..|07 XMTRX-07.DRK Xypher Matrix the arc angel in the b/g looked kinda cool..the font sucked |08........................<|154.5/10|08>..|07 XMTRX-08.DRK Xypher Matrix good toonish pic..ok shading.. |08........................<|155.5/10|08>..|07 XMTRX-09.DRK Xypher Matrix crap font..get a new style |08........................<|153.5/10|08>..|07 XMTRX-10.DRK Xypher Matrix weird font..hard to read..decent |08........................<|154.5/10|08>..|07 XMTRX-11.DRK Xypher Matrix this font style is kinda sucks... |08........................< |155/10 |08>..|07 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |08� 같 같같같같같같같굅굇굉� |15Best Picks |08 굉굇굅굅같같같같같같� 같 � |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Best ANSI : TGHRNT-03.drk by The Green Hornet ENIGM-03.drk by The Enigma SMRAI-01.drk by the Samurai Best VGA : n/a [didnt look at the vga] Best RIP : n/a [didnt look at the rip] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |08� 같 같같같같같갚갚굇껑 |15General Comments |08 굉굇굅굅같같같같같 같 � |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dark Illustrated: well, this was on an ok month for dark..the pack was nice looking..I only reviewed the ansi, since i dont do vga/askey/rip and wouldnt be a good judge of them. I did review all the ansi, leaving comments and a rating.. I rated them based on the skill, shading, color, composition, shape, etc. If you are unhappy with your rating for some reason, go whine to your mother or pay me off with some cold hard green stuff. if you haven't already looked at this pack, i would take a peek, considering the nice stuff tgh, noot and samurai did. -riv!anger review.4 310 栢白兵� � 複複複� 複複複複� � 賽昉 殯賽 複兵栢� 賽꿇 � 賽栢 査꿉 複蔔栢� � � 賽 査幡賽 複 殯 栢� � 賽 査꿉賽 � � � � 査꿉 � � �� 複百 百査 � 署複 複꿇 査 � 꾼� 査� 査百死 � 複覆 査� 꾼栢 死 栢昉 査昉� � hal 査百 � 栢昉 賽賞百 昉 査幡賽 � 蔔昉 兵賽� 殯 査幡賽 梭� � 死 � 複兵複百 査幡賽 複兵� 栢 � 賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽� � 賽賽賽栢 百 fire - march explosition -- 03/03/96! 査 昉複複複複複複複複複複複複複複複複複複複兵� 賽賽 賽 � � � 賽 賽� FIRE0396.ZIP ::: Reviewed by Mindcrime of Blade Productions! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |08� 같 같같같갚갚굇껑 |15Individual Art Comments |08굉굇굅굅같같같 같 � |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |15Filename Artist Comments|07 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 33-FIRE3 ANS Eerie-Kun Rad toony type pic, pretty good composition, nice shading. Short but good, nice font. |08........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 33-RIOT ANS Eerie-Kun MCA-Style font, I never liked the style. Lets leave it at that. |08........................< |154/10 |08>..|07 33-SUP2 ANS Eerie-Kun Decent font, nice shading. Could have user better comp. |08........................< |155/10 |08>..|07 33-TRAIN ANS Eerie-Kun Uhm.. What the hell is it? Abstract isn't the word for this. |08.........................< |155/10 |08>..|07 33-TREG9 ANS Eerie-Kun Eerie needs to get rid of that monochrome monitor, it's killing his ansi. |08.........................< |155/10 |08>..|07 BP-FREE1 ANS Bigge Pif Cool font, nice shading. The R and K could use better bottoms, but an overall nice font. |08.........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 BP-HITHX ANS Bigge Pif Plain font, not very creative. But decent shading. |08.........................< |155/10 |08>..|07 BP-HOTHZ ANS Bigge Pif Very nice font, good shading and great composition. Could have used a better background. |08.........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 BP-NEONA ANS Bigge Pif Nice shading on this font, but overall bad composition. |08.........................< |155/10 |08>..|07 BP-PLAN1 ANS Bigge Pif Nice font. Very good comp and and shading, but the color choice is dullllll. |08.........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 BP-PROPH ANS Bigge Pif Nice font. Great color choice. Pretty good comp, and a great shading scheme. |08.........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 BP-SPLIT ANS Bigge Pif Great composition on this font, but it's too similar to all the others. Good color choice, very nice shading. |08.........................<|158.5/10|08>..|07 BP-STRAN ANS Bigge Pif Decent font, decent colors, okay shading, okay comp. Just all around eh. |08.........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 BP-SYST ANS Bigge Pif Nice pic. Decent comp, great colors and a nice shade scheme. Font needs more... |08.........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 BV-HOTH1 ANS Black Viper Pretty cool 23 liner. Colors are kinda dull, but the comp is good. Shading is decent, uses too many 07 colored shades. |08.........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 BV-PULS1 ANS Black Viper Okay font, way overshaded. Too many black shades. |08.........................< |155/10 |08>..|07 CY-CELT1 ANS Cybernary Drab font. Needs color. Shading is dull, design and composition are too scratchy. |08.........................< |155/10 |08>..|07 CY-IC01 ANS Cybernary Decent monochrome font. Comp is lame, but shading is nice. |08.........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 CY-TUN01 ANS Cybernary Ugh. This guy needs to learn how to use colors. The comp is terrible, and the shading is too dark and scratchy. |08.........................< |154/10 |08>..|07 DH-AW1 ANS Donut Hole Nice toon. Decent use of color, Okay shade scheme. Needs a better font. |08.........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 FR-COLLY ANS Fractal Oh, how novel, an ascii colly in the ansi section. Nevertheless, Fractal rules at ascii. |08.........................<|158.5/10|08>..|07 GL-WEB ANS Grimlock Very nice pic. Spiderman is done well and Violator is done almost perfectly. Nice font as well. Subject fits board name to a T :) |08.........................< |159/10 |08>..|07 HAL-PIR ANS Halaster Although I love this shading style, I just have no clue what this is. Bad composition, I guess? heh.. Nice font, though. |08.........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 HAL-WEE8 ANS Halaster Two very excellent fonts. The shading is prime and comp is quit cool. |08.........................< |159/10 |08>..|07 ID-LGND ANS Iodine A most excellent pic. Great composition, fantastic shading. Excellent use of colors. Oh, and the font kicks ass! |08.........................< |159/10 |08>..|07 JP-HOTH ANS Jeepee ugh. Ascii. |08.........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 JP-IMP1 ANS Jeepee Very rad shading, but the right side isn't even by this artist. The spawn was well drawn though. |08.........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 NM-FIRE1 ANS Numb Ugh. Which of these ansi's is not like the others? This one. Comp, colors, and shading are ugly. Font is bony as hell. Needs more... alot more. |08.........................< |154/10 |08>..|07 NM-O3 ANS Numb Don't try to draw sideways, it just comes out looking bad. The proportions and composition are just all wrong. |08.........................< |155/10 |08>..|07 NM-WBBR1 ANS Numb Decent 23 liner.. Font is pretty cool, but needs more colors. shading is kinda old school, but decently done. |08.........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 NM-WBBR2 ANS Numb I needed to look this one over a bit before commenting. Its quite well done, but could use some sort of background. The shading is very odd looking at a glance, but actually makes it look quite good. decent font, needs more color. |08.........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 P1-CW ANS Prisoner#1 Quite excellent pic. Great comp and and shading. I like the b/w with subtle reds.. very nice. The roses are rad, but the font is blah.. |08.........................<|158.5/10|08>..|07 P1-DOODL ANS Prisoner#1 Nice font. Great use of colors, nice shading scheme. |08.........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 PN-EVIL ANS Panacea Ascii... Colored... Ansi? Nope. Decent ascii pic, subject matter is rather lame, though. Good shading, nice font. |08.........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 PN-FONT3 ANS Panacea Nice fonts. Very nice shading, but some could use more original composition. Not bad. |08.........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 PN-VAG ANS Panacea If I wanted to see this, I'd read playboy, not look at an ansi pack. |08.........................< |155/10 |08>..|07 SP-COLLY ANS Spear Ascii logos. Pretty decent, but standard ascii fonts. Could use to be more original. |08.........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 STC-BIO2 ANS Stone The Crow Nice pic. Very nice shading, quite decent composition. The font could use more work, but is still pretty nice. |08.........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 TE-REG1 ANS The Extremist This guys style is kinda cool, But needs to work on the comp a bit. Shading is nice and the fonts are cool. The top of this ansi kicks mad ass. |08.........................<|157.5/10|08>..|07 TE-RIOT1 ANS The Extremist Okay font. Shading is a bit overdone, composition needs work. Decent colors. |08.........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 TE-TST01 ANS The Extremist Ugh.. This is one of the ugliest fonts I've seen in a while. |08.........................< |152/10 |08>..|07 TG-LOGOS ANS Tang This guy has the raddest handle of them all and his fonts are pretty damn good, too. Nice comp rad colors, good shading. |08.........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 US-FIRE ANS CY+HAL Decent pic, nice shading. composition could use some work. Font blows. |08.........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 US-HYP ANS KAD+HAL+P1 Decent pic. Composition is good, but could be better. Shading is good and the colors are great until you get to the green leg. Ick. Decent font. |08.........................<|157.5/10|08>..|07 US-IMP ANS BP+TNA Ugh.. Ugly picture, but decent shading and composition. the font is quite cool. |08.........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 US-SHZM ANS BP+MILK+CHEESE Excellent picture. Awesome shading, excellent composition. Most excellently done and the font is rad too. Very nice and vivid colors all around. |08.........................< |159/10 |08>..|07 ZR-ICE01 ANS Zoltar Pretty cool font. Colors are good, shading is pretty good. Composition could use some work. |08.........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 PN-CYBR2 RIP Panacea Pretty decent rip. Colors could use some work, and the detail is pretty low. |08.........................<|156.5/10|08>..|07 PN-CYBRT RIP Panacea Uhm. Cute? heh.. Pretty cool toon-like rip. needs a better background. Simple yet rad font. |08.........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 AA-FYI GIF Nice font, seems like it's mostly just effects, though. Good colors. |08.........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 AA-NIN GIF Scanned in pencil art. Looks decent, but doesn't fit the medium. Nice font nonetheless. |08.........................< |155/10 |08>..|07 BM-KURT GIF Bedlam Interesting concept, but I can't really tell ya which parts were drawn and which were scanned. Pretty nice, nonetheless. |08.........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 EV-GRIF GIF Everlast Pretty cool comic rip, Nicely draw. Good colors and shading. |08.........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 FS-TREG JPG Firestone Pretty cool. Definitly nice font, but the pic could be better. |08.........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 GOD-INTG GIF God Among Lice Pretty cool. Odd concept, but well drawn. |08.........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 P1-FIRE GIF Prisoner#1 Simple, yet very cool. Well drawn, nice shading. |08.........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 P1-TR9 GIF Prisoner#1 Rad pic. Well shaded, comp. could use a little work. Standard fonts could have been better. Nice background. |08.........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 PN-FUME JPG Panacea Very nice little vga log. Nice shading and colors, rad background. Well done. |08.........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 PN-ORNRY JPG Pancacea Uhm.. Could have used better composition. Good shading, nice use of colors. |08.........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |08� 같 같같같같같같같굅굇굉� |15Best Picks |08 굉굇굅굅같같같같같같� 같 � |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Best ANSI : US-SHZM.ANS by Bigge Pif, Milk, Cheese GL-WEB.ANS by Grimlock PI-CW.ANS by Prisoner#1 Best VGA : P1-TR9.GIF by Prisoner#1 Best RIP : PN-CYBERT.RIP by Panacea ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |08� 같 같같같같같갚갚굇껑 |15General Comments |08 굉굇굅굅같같같같같 같 � |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Overall a nice showing from Fire this month. The ansi, although it consisted of alot of stand alone fonts, was quite good. Strong showing from Prisoner#1 and Bigge Pif. I expected more out of the VGA and RIP department, they left alot to be desired this month. I would have also liked to have seen more from Halaster and Grimlock. Overall a good pak once again from Fire. |07 ,#' |08(|15mindcrime|07::blade'legacy'acid|08) -- -+ |07.$#. |08(|07close your eyes, you can find all you need in your mind|08) - -+ review.5 219 � � � FIRE! � � � � � 蔔 蔔塞 梭� 死 � 같 栢白複幡 査� 蔔栢幡 複百 兵 蔔栢塞 百 賞 � 賽栢栢百 蔔� 査鵬百 � � � � � 璽栢白栢� � 賞蔔� � 死 査覆 蔔栢賞百 査栢賽� 蔔� � 栢霜蔔賽� 栢 複� � 梭栢昉 複幡複煞 査幡 賞 � 賞� � � 栢昉� 蔔栢幡白꿉蔔百 繃百覆 � 百 覆 梭 査百 査昉賞栢百査栢 梭� 栢� 栢� �� 死 賞 梭栢繃栢栢白賞� 梭 幡百 査白� � 査複 栢� � 賞栢栢栢白栢� 百 � 賞� 三栢白栢栢複栢蔔栢賽栢栢白栢白蔔栢複昉� 賽賽賽賽賽賽賽賽 賽賽賽賽賽� fire warning : combustable package 04/96 our time in the limelight FIRE0496.ZIP ::: Reviewed by Mindcrime of Blade Productions! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |08� 같 같같같갚갚굇껑 |15Individual Art Comments |08굉굇굅굅같같같 같 � |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |15Filename Artist Comments|07 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 33-STB14 ANS Eerie-Kun Pretty cool little pic. The shading is a bit odd, but the composition is nice and so are the colors. Original font, and it's nice but needs some shading. |08........................<|157.5/10|08>..|07 33-TLS ANS Eerie-Kun Pretty cool little pic. Good colors, good shading. The composition is a little odd, but so is the subject matter so that's okay. The font is nice and original, well shaded and colored. Nice. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 BP-CLUS1 ANS Bigge Pif Nice fonts! Bigge Pif has moved away from his old style of fonts and has come up with some great stuff. Nice, original fonts. Good colors, nice shading. Good job. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 BP-CONF ANS Bigge Pif Decent screen. The composition on the face is not all that good, but the shading is decent. Could have used more colors. |08.........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 BP-PULSE ANS Bigge Pif Pretty nice pic. Good colors, very nice shading. Good composition, as well. Nice. |08.........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 BP-SABOT ANS Bigge Pif Hmm.. Decent, but the area around the mouth looks really warped. Pretty cool font. |08.........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 BV-COLLY ANS Black Viper Decent fonts. Nothing very inventive, trying too much to pull of Maestro style fonts. |08.........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 BV-FREE1 ANS Black Viper Decent composition, but the shading isn't all that good. The font is too scratchy, trying unsuccesfully to be like Maestro. |08.........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 GK-DDL1 ANS Grind King Okay font, but it doesn't work very well on the background. Pretty standard font, anyway. |08.........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 GK-TREG1 ANS Grind King Decent font. Okay composition, and simple but decent shading. |08.........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 HAL-APOC ANS Halaster Very rad font. Nicely original, good colors, and that totally excellent Halaster shade. Well done. |08.........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 HAL-CDI ANS Halaster The top had me a bit worried, but once the pic kicked in I was happy. Very nice! Hal really has a thing for that Cerebus d00d, and he can really pull it off well. I liked the face below Cerebus as well, and all the background type stuff is great, although it leaves a little too much black space. Totally excellent font. |08.........................<|158.5/10|08>..|07 HAL-REB ANS Halaster Woah. Very nice font. Nice and inventive, with the rad tree branches and stuff. The background could use a little more toward the top, though. |08.........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 HAL-SZM2 ANS Halaster Heh.. Totally rad. Is that from that Lucas Arts game? Day of the Tenticle? heh.. Rad. GREAT colors and shading. Nice comp. |08.........................<|158.5/10|08>..|07 ID-FIRE! ANS Iodine Hmm.. Decent font. Takes a little while to grow on you... The colors are a little cheezy, and the font itself could have been more original. |08.........................<|156.5/10|08>..|07 ID-INTOX ANS Iodine Wow. Iodine really needs to do more pics, because this one just plain rocks. Fantastic Shading and colors, great composition. The skull thing at the top is just totally radical. Awesome font as well. |08.........................< |159/10 |08>..|07 NG-GOD1 ANS Nosegos Ugh.. Shading and colors suck, composition is just lame, and that font has got to go. |08.........................< |153/10 |08>..|07 NG-TG1 ANS Nosegos Pretty cool ansi, but the fonts are all just lame. This guy should try toons. |08.........................< |155/10 |08>..|07 NG-WFC1 ANS Nosegos Decent toon style pic. The smurfs just rock. The grass and sky aren't very good, need more shading or something. |08.........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 NM-PST4 ANS Numb Lame colors and shading. The composition is okay, but the rest of the attributes just make it really ugly. |08.........................< |154/10 |08>..|07 STC-PHAR ANS Stone The Crow Pretty nice pic. The face is quit cool, but the rest of the ansi is basically just background. Still pretty cool, and the shading is quite nice. The font is okay. |08.........................<|157.5/10|08>..|07 TE-TECH1 ANS The Extremist WAY overshaded. The font is okay, though. |08.........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 US-RGNCY BIN Splint+Hal Wow. VERY nice pic. Good definition, great colors and composition, The shading is a little weak, especially around the eyes, but the rest is totally cool. |08.........................<|158.5/10|08>..|07 P1-EI2 RIP Prisoner#1 Nice rip. Good composition, but the shading and colors might have been better. Could have used some nicer fonts.. |08.........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 EV-KONG GIF Everlast Simple yet pretty cool little vga. Good colors and composition, nice shading. |08.........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 GOD-CIZB GIF God Among Lice Pretty cool. Nice font, good background. |08.........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 P1-FWWW1 GIF Prisoner#1 Nice face. Great composition, especially the lips. Eye's are a little week, but overall very nice. |08.........................<|158.5/10|08>..|07 WB-FEB14 JPG Winbee Wow. Excellent anime. I get a bit sceptical of stuff like this because it's so perfect, but if that's hand drawn it's quit amazing. |08.........................< |159/10 |08>..|07 WB-FIRE JPG Winbee Another excellent anime. The body is a little weak toward the bottom, but the rest is just amazing. |08.........................< |159/10 |08>..|07 WB-HYPNO JPG Winbee Another rad anime. This one could use some better colors, the yellow is a little over- abundant, with the background being brownish. |08.........................<|158.5/10|08>..|07 WB-KAEN3 JPG Winbee This guy totally rocks. Great anime. Sweet colors, good shading and composition. |08.........................<|158.5/10|08>..|07 WB-MINA1 JPG Winbee The backgrounds on these pics could be better, but again, this anime totally rocks. Great colors and shading, nice comp. |08.........................<|158.5/10|08>..|07 WB-RAY4 JPG Winbee Ditto. |08.........................<|158.5/10|08>..|07 WB-TAIL1 JPG Winbee Ditto. |08.........................<|158.5/10|08>..|07 WB-YUIN3 JPG Winbee Indeed, more of the same. |08.........................<|158.5/10|08>..|07 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |08� 같 같같같같같갚갚굇껑 |15General Comments |08 굉굇굅굅같같같같같 같 � |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Best ANSI : HAL-CDI.ANS by Halaster ID-INTOX.ANS by Iodine Best VGA : WB-FEB14.JPG by Winbee Best RIP : P1-EI2.RIP by Prisoner#1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |08� 같 같같같같같갚갚굇껑 |15General Comments |08 굉굇굅굅같같같같같 같 � |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Great pack from fire this month. I especially liked seeing work from two of my favorite artists, Halaster and Iodine, in the same pack. Very nice work. The VGA was quit cool as well this month. A few of the artists just aren't fire quality, but I suppose that happens with all groups. Gee, I wish shazam.exe had worked :) |07 ,#' |08(|15mindcrime|07::blade'legacy'acid|08) -- -+ |07.$#. |08(|07close your eyes, you can find all you need in your mind|08) - -+ review.6 233 � cia conspiracy # 32 � � 複複複 複� 複複複 � � � 幡 賞� 賞� 賞 蔔� � � � 方 蔔 � � � 賞� 栢� � � 幡賽幡賽꿉賽� � � � � 賞� � � � � � � � � 蔔� � � � � � � �a 三� � 三� CIAPAK32.ZIP ::: Reviewed by Mindcrime of Blade Productions! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |08� 같 같같같갚갚굇껑 |15Individual Art Comments |08굉굇굅굅같같같 같 � |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |15Filename Artist Comments|07 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- AM-MAT1 CIA Amophis Sweet matrix ansi. The pic itself rocks out, but the background could have used some work. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 CZ-NOT4A CIA Cheeze Nice concept ansi, but probably ripped right outta The Far Side. Nonetheless, well drawn, nicely shaded, and great use of color. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 LM-APOC CIA Lagomorph This guy is a great new talent. Sweet as hell newschool-type pics and fonts. Awesome use of black/white, great shading, nice font. Very nicely done. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 NA-ATOMK CIA Napalm Wow.. One of the nicest Nappy ansis i've seen in a while. Great japanimation style, nice color use, great shading. Well drawn, especially for only 50 lines or so. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 NA-MILLE CIA Napalm Nice ansi. Well drawn in the typical napalm style, while at the same time remaining fresh and new. There's something about Nappy's new work that is slightly different, and I like it. Nice colors, althought the hair got kooky at the bottom. |08........................<|157.5/10|08>..|07 NA-SURVI CIA Napalm It's definitly hard to go wrong with Wile E. Coyote, and Napalm certainly doesn't. Very nicely drawn, well shaded, good use of color. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 NB-HIFI1 CIA Nightblade Hmm.. Decent pic, but the outline shading pays no attention to light source. It gives it a very fake, unappealing glow. Decent comp, but the pic is still weak. Standard font. |08........................< |155/10 |08>..|07 NB-INIQ1 CIA Nightblade Pretty cool font with decent shading. Pretty cool background. |08........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 NB-UNION CIA Nightblade Decent pic, alright shading.. Cheezy wanna-be Number28 font. |08........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 SD-STOLE CIA Sudden Death Sudden Death brings back the old school blade space spot shade technique. I must admit, I always hated this technique. But the picture is well drawn for the most part. Very old school font, not bad. |08........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 SP-HB1 CIA Skypager Decent black and white 23 liner. The font could have used a good deal more work, but the little pic is pretty cool. |08........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 SP-IEMTX CIA Skypager Decent matrix. The fire is well drawn, but the face could use a better composition. Shading is decent, could have used better colors. |08........................< |155/10 |08>..|07 SP-TUN1 CIA Skypager Pretty cool little pic. The backrgound is nice, well shaded and drawn. The pic itself is well shaded and drawn as well, although doesn't integrate itself with the background. |08........................<|156.5/10|08>..|07 STC-AHS CIA Stone The Crow Very nice small logo. The font itself is nicely shaded and well drawn, and the small pic at the side is effective in completing the effect. Nicely done. |08........................< |158/10 |07>..|07 STC-AWRK CIA Stone The Crow Very nice, even though I never really liked the whole "sideways" thing. This type of pic may be better suited for a .bin file. Definitly points for difficulty. Well shaded, good use of colors. Very nice comp. Font could use work. |08........................<|158.5/10|08>..|07 STC-RECY CIA Stone The Crow The background in these STC pics is quit cool. This pic is well drawn, although kinda skimpy on the face and hand. Great use of color, and nice shading. The font is typical STC, but works well here with a nice contrasting color scheme. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 STC-THC1 CIA Stone The Crow Sweet 23 liner. Colors are nice, and the font is pretty cool. The pic is simple yet goes well in the pic. Nice. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 US-HF1 CIA NB+CZ The pic is just like nightblades others. Okay composition but his shading is all off. The font is quite cool,as are all Cheeze's fonts. |08........................<|156.5/10|08>..|07 US-REVIV CIA SD+NA Decent composition, but that Sudden Death scratchyness comes into play again. I'm not really fond of it. Pretty cool pic tho. |08........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 AJ-ANSI LGO Acidjazz Well drawn fonts, semi-original. Decent use of colors and shading. |08........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 AJ-STOLE LGO Acidjazz Pretty standard font. Shading is okay, but could use more work. |08........................< |155/10 |08>..|07 CY-CIAL1 LGO Cyst Hmm.. Decent font, but the background totally detracts from the ansi. Decent use of colors and shading, however. |08........................< |155/10 |08>..|07 CZCOLLY5 LGO Cheeze Cheeze's logos are like a mix between Chromatik and Rai. How could one go wrong with that combo? |08........................<|158.5/10|08>..|07 JZ-EOE1 LGO Jazz Pretty standard font. Could have used better colors and shading, and maybe a background. |08........................< |155/10 |08>..|07 LF-GEN LGO Lucifer Pretty standard font. Hideous colors, tho. |08........................< |154/10 |08>..|07 LF-GEN13 LGO Lucifer Woah..ehe.. Wacked out colors. Pretty cool, simple font. Entertaining to say the least. |08........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 LM-COLLY LGO Lagomorph Wow.. These guys fonts are most triumphantly cool. New school shading, and rad designs. Good job. |08........................<|158.5/10|08>..|07 LV-CIA11 LGO Liquid Vision Uhm... Okay font I guess. Perhaps its the thought that counts? |08........................< |155/10 |08>..|07 LV-SPRL1 LGO Liquid Vision Ick.. Bad composition, terrible colors. Shading is.. well.. okay, at best. |08........................< |153/10 |08>..|07 NA-LOG32 LGO Napalm Napalm's fonts have always been pretty original and inventive., Vivid colors, great shading. Well done. |08........................<|158.5/10|08>..|07 NB-DDL1 LGO Nightblade Hmm. Decent font. Shading is okay, could be better. Background outline detracts from the font. Composition is standard font. |08........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 NB-DNK1 LGO Nightblade Nice font. Good shading, decent use of color. Cool composition and motion blur effect. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 NB-ECK1 LGO Nightblade Uhm.. Wanna-be new school, just doesn't pull it off. Bad shading, bad composition. |08........................< |154/10 |08>..|07 SP-COL2 LGO Skypager A bunch of very similar fonts. Small and standard. Beginners shading. |08........................< |154/10 |08>..|07 STC_GEN LGO Stone The Crow Ugly composition on this font. Decent colors and shade, but it totally looks ugly. |08........................< |154/10 |08>..|07 CS-TIME- JPG Coleslaw Most triumphantly excellent font. Great concept, Well done. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 ER-ICE JPG Ear Decent landscape type vga. Pretty standard. |08........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 PC-CIA JPG Phatcap Hmm.. I'm not exactly sure what this is. Looks more like a scan than an original computer composition. Decent, but odd. |08........................< |155/10 |08>..|07 VSN-WEB JPG Vision Very rad looking pic and a nice font. Well drawn, but the layout of the vga could have used more attention. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |08� 같 같같같같같같같굅굇굉� |15Best Picks |08 굉굇굅굅같같같같같같� 같 � |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Best ANSI : LM-APOC.CIA by Lagomorph NA-ATOMK.CIA by Napalm NA-SURVI.CIA by Napalm Best VGA : CS-TIME-.JPG by Coleslaw ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |08� 같 같같같같같갚갚굇껑 |15General Comments |08 굉굇굅굅같같같같같 같 � |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Overall, a very nice pack from CIA this month. The quality real jumped up from previous months. The ansi was surprisingly good, even though the vga could have used more work. CIA has alot of great new talent in both Cheeze and Lagomorph, and Napalm is always putting in a consitantly great performance. Overall I was very pleasantly surprised by this months cia pak. |07 ,#' |08(|15mindcrime|07::blade'legacy'acid|08) -- -+ |07.$#. |08(|07close your eyes, you can find all you need in your mind|08) - -+ review.7 191 複蔔幡白複 -컴컴컴-- 複蔔賞白複 -커 幡겡 昉栢� 蔔栢� 賞昉� 栢겡 � 栢글 賽賽 泗견栢� 賽賽 栢글 � � 栢꾼 꾼白複 霜栢� 複蔔栢賞昉� � 栢栢 栢幡賞� 蔔� 栢賽栢� 栢賽 譁 � 蔔栢� 栢 � 百査繃� � 栢 � 輻霜 � � 賽賽賞複幡 査� 賞複幡賽� 霜 輻霜 읕�-- � --- 賽� -�-- � -- � 死 霜 � cia conspiracy number : 霜輻 � 死 霜輻 CIAPAK33.ZIP ::: Reviewed by Mindcrime of Blade Productions! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |08� 같 같같같갚갚굇껑 |15Individual Art Comments |08굉굇굅굅같같같 같 � |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |15Filename Artist Comments|07 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- CY-ATOM1 CIA Cyst Very nice pic. Great colors, good shading. Very good composition. The background rocks. The font is cool, but a little inconsistant with the rest of the pic. Very nice. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 ES-NITMX CIA Elusive I don't like this one. The shading is bad and the composition is lacking. The teeth are bad. |08........................< |155/10 |08>..|07 FIL-BP CIA Filth Hmm.. The composition on this ansi is not very good at all, but the shading is decent. The colors could have been more vivid, or at least better picked. |08........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 FIL-DM CIA Filth The top started out pretty good, but it got lame toward the bottom. Bad shading, bad composition. Below the face it just gets really bad. |08........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 LF-APOC CIA Lucifer Lf is getting alot better at this rad anime style. Pretty cool. Shading is good, but the composition could have been better. Pretty cool font. |08........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 NA-ACIDO CIA Napalm What can I say? Napalm just roqs at these toons. Good shading, good colors, good comp. I even like the font! ;) |08........................< |159/10 |08>..|07 NA-FFGBW CIA Napalm Woah. Totally rad. Black and white just rocks when it is pulled off well, and Napalm does a great job with this pic. I'm not sure what the bottom is/says, but it's pretty neat |08........................< |159/10 |08>..|07 SG-HNGR2 CIA Sigmar Pretty cool 23 liner. The face parts look good; well shaded and composed. The background could have used more work, and the font should be a different color than the background. |08........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 SP-E1999 CIA Skypager! Decent pic. The hair isn't great, but the face is well drawn and shaded. Decent font, although it could use better colors. |08........................<|157.5/10|08>..|07 TH-APOC CIA Thrasher Very rad anime-style pic. Good shading, great colors, decent background. The fonts could use help, though. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 US-MAGIR CIA Rai/Napalm Been there, done that. See ice pak for review. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 CR-DEC1 LGO Creator Okay font. The composition is kinda lame, but the shading is decent. Needs more colors. |08........................< |155/10 |08>..|07 CZ-PART1 LGO Cheeze Nice font collection, alot of different styles thrown together. Overall, good use of colors and shading. Composition on some of them could have been better, but overall nice. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 ES-AMNE LGO Elusive Standard font, shading could have been better. |08........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 ES-SPIN LGO Elusive Nice font. Good colors, good shading. Composition is decent, but could have been better/move original. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 ES-TSP LGO Elusive Decent font. Good colors, decent shading, but the composition isn't very good. |08........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 LM-LOGOS LGO Lagomorph Overall some very nice logos. Great colors and shading. The composition was quite nice, but somewhat standard. Need more originality. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 NA-CDI01 LGO Napalm Hmm. A change of style for napalm as far as fonts go. It's decent. Well shaded, but the composition is a bit overdone. |08........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 ON-MISC LGO O-Tron Cool logo, especially for being saved in ascii format. |08........................<|157.5/10|08>..|07 ON-RETRO LGO O-Tron Good colors, but the shading is overdone. The composition is off balance and not very good. |08........................< |155/10 |08>..|07 SG-COLLY LGO Sigmar Overall a very nice collection of logos. Good colors and nice shading. Some of the logos were decently original, but most could have used more creativity. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 SG-DL1 LGO Sigmar Pretty standard, bad colors, cheezy shading. |08........................< |154/10 |08>..|07 SP-COL13 LGO Skypager! Most of the logos used the same style, even though it's kinda cool. Decent colors and shading, just needs more originality. |08........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 SP-COL4 LGO Skypager! Again, mostly in that same style. Some decent small pics in this collection. |08........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 SP-COL5 LGO Skypager! More of the same... |08........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 CS-ENDET JPG Coleslaw One cheezy lens flare and some other stuff. Not very original. |08........................< |154/10 |08>..|07 DI-EB JPG Digital Interf. Hmm.. Nice abstracts, well drawn and rendered. Pretty nice, and even though the individual items aren't original, the entire slew of them is. |08........................<|158.5/10|08>..|07 DK-CIA JPG Dark Karnage The font itself is standard and bony, but the background is kinda cool and abstract. |08........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 LZ-TV2 JPG Litoz Standard font, but the background is kinda cool. Still, nothing special. |08........................< |155/10 |08>..|07 M-APOC JPG Mouse Looks like this was probably a standard font, but the effects and background are kinda cool. |08........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 NA-APSK3 GIF Napalm Hmm.. pretty cool. The skull is cool, and the font works well where it is. Pretty nice. |08........................<|157.5/10|08>..|07 TE-SZONE JPG Telstar Uhm... Decent vga, nothing special though. I'm getting kinda sick of these space-type standard vgas.... |08........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |08� 같 같같같같같같같굅굇굉� |15Best Picks |08 굉굇굅굅같같같같같같� 같 � |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Best ANSI : CY-ATOM1.CIA by Cyst NA-FFGBW.CIA by Napalm NA-ACIDO.CIA by Napalm Best VGA : DI-EB.JPG by Digital Interface ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |08� 같 같같같같같갚갚굇껑 |15General Comments |08 굉굇굅굅같같같같같 같 � |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Overall a decent pack from cia this month. Definitly not as good as last months, but still decently entertaining. The fonts need alot more originality, as do most fonts these days. The VGA lacks this crucial aspect as well, but the ansi pics are quite nice, especially from Napalm. |07 ,#' |08(|15mindcrime|07::blade'legacy'acid|08) -- -+ |07.$#. |08(|07close your eyes, you can find all you need in your mind|08) - -+ review.8 183 "molested by our pediatricians" 複丙겨複複같같같같 pa/#28 (4/96) 같겨栢栢昉栢幡賞栢倂栢白複같같 갛栢白� 査幡栢旁栢� 査栢꾼栢栢栢白� 栢栢꾼白栢� 栢百査白蔔栢璽栢昉� 賞栢� 査栢� 賞栢 갛栢껐賽賽같같栢栢白 蔔栢百 갚栢旁� 査栢꿉賞栢栢賽 賽栢� MOP-9604.ZIP ::: Reviewed by Mindcrime of Blade Productions! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |08� 같 같같같갚갚굇껑 |15Individual Art Comments |08굉굇굅굅같같같 같 � |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |15Filename Artist Comments|07 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-RGNC1 ANS Number 28 Number 28 knows The Maxx. Great shading, awesome colors, great composition. Might have been a bit better with a background. Nice font as well. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 CC-HOTH4 ANS Corpulant Cow Ugh. The shading on this pic is terrible. The composition isn't good either, and the colors are ugly as hell. |08........................< |153/10 |08>..|07 CS-FOOLS ANS Catbones Am I the only person on earth who actually thought this was kinda cool on Cat's old board? Asside from the bone being all crooked, it's kinda nice. |08........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 IF-GYROM ANS Infernal Flames Pretty cool pic. Good shading, nice composition, good colors. The font is really cool, in that grand Unsane/Ruckus kind of way. |08.........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 MOPLOGO7 ANS Multiple Artists Some really rad fonts in here. Good colors, good shading, decent composition. The only bad fonts were by scribble. He needs a new style, REAL quick. |08.........................<|157.5/10|08>..|07 PP-CHEF ANS Pixel Pusher Decent, but the composition could have been alot better. The shading is a but over- abundant as well. Colors are nice, though. |08.........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 PP-PITH2 ANS Pixel Pusher Composition needs alot of work. Other than that it is pretty well done. Nice font and bottom of the ansi. |08.........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 TL-LTICA ANS Tung Lo Could use some work around the top and the eye, but the lips and neck are very well done. Font is well shaded and colored, but the composition needs help. |08.........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 TL-RALPH ANS Tung Lo Pretty cool, in that toony/cooky sort of way. Good shading, decent colors. The background could use some more... something. The font is kinda cheezy. |08.........................<|157.5/10|08>..|07 UNS-JI ANS Unsane Pretty rad pic. Great shading and colors, and the composition is pretty decent. Nice fonts! |08.........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 US-HOLE1 ANS Rusty+Scribble Very nice pic. Well shaded, nice background, great colors. Very nice. The fonts could have used better composition, and Scribble's stuff could have just been done without completely. |08.........................<|158.5/10|08>..|07 28-BITCH RIP Number 28 Pretty nice rip. Needs a background or some kind of filler, but the shading and detail is pretty good. Colors are a bit drab, and the font could be a bit better. Overall pretty nice, though. |08.........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 BM-BTH1 RIP Bedlam Okay, So I'm a bit partial to this one for obvious reasons, but it really does rock! The font is totally cool, and the colors are great. The shading and detail are good. Overall quite nice! |08.........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 BTJ-ART RIP Bob The Janitor Heh.. Pretty rad for a toony type rip. I like how the little font is kinda random. Good colors, but needs to fill the sceen more. |08.........................<|157.5/10|08>..|07 TI-HVN1 RIP Trip Hmm.. kinda cool. I like the font, but the rest is just cheezy little b/w sketches. Still halfway cool. |08.........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 28-BMDAD GIF Number 28 Hmm.. Bedlam's dad sure is a funny guy! ehe. Nicely drawn, with good detail and nice black/white effects. The whole screen is neatly layed out and pretty rad. radical. Awesome font as well. |08.........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 CS-GMSK1 GIF Catbones Hmm.. Pretty cool. A little duller than most Catbones vga's, but still well drawn. Good shading. |08.........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 CS-SKLC1 GIF Catbones VERY nice. The skull is totally excellent, and the font just rocks. The whole layout and background is very nice. |08.........................< |159/10 |08>..|07 IO-KOZMK GIF Icto Pretty cool little pic. I like the font, and the colors are rad. Good shading and composition, nice layout. |08.........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 IO-MOP1 GIF Icto Pretty cool. I don't know how much I like the fonts, but the skull and background are cool. If you look closely, the background is/looks like a circuit board. pretty rad. |08.........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 IO-MOP2 GIF Icto Wow.. Totally cool. The pic is just excellent, both in form and idea. Great layout all around. This vga is just totally rad. |08.........................<|159.5/10|08>..|07 TQ-LAN1 GIF Tabaqui Pretty cool. Decent fonts and background, and the pic is well shaded and drawn. Decent color use/vga layout. |08.........................<|157.5/10|08>..|07 TQ-MOP1 GIF Tabaqui I don't really like this one. The pic is kinda warped and malformed. The background and fonts, however, are kinda cool. |08.........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 US-JINS1 GIF Cat+Bedlam I totally love this vga. The backlit planets just look totally awesome, and the fonts are cool. The colors are great and everything comes together quite nicely. Well done. |08.........................< |159/10 |08>..|07 VN-MYSEL GIF Vengeance Pretty cool. I like the background and fonts, and the pic is nice too. The whole thing is well shaded and uses nice colors. |08.........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 XE-REBEL GIF Xedgex I lub Star Wars! ehe.. Well drawn Tie Fighters, cool lookin' background, and a nice font at the top. Well done. |08.........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |08� 같 같같같같같갚갚굇껑 |15General Comments |08 굉굇굅굅같같같같같 같 � |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Best ANSI : US-HOLE1.ANS by Rusty 28-RGNC1.ANS by Number 28 Best VGA : IO-MOP2.GIF by Icto Best RIP : BM-BTH1.RIP by Bedlam ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |08� 같 같같같같같갚갚굇껑 |15General Comments |08 굉굇굅굅같같같같같 같 � |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Another great looking pack from Mop this month. These guys have a good lot of talent here, and consistantly show us that month after month. The ansi usually lacks a bit, but they more than make up for it with the VGA and RIP, with the work of Cat, Icto, Bedlam, Number 28, et al. Good work. |07 ,#' |08(|15mindcrime|07::blade'legacy'acid|08) -- -+ |07.$#. |08(|07close your eyes, you can find all you need in your mind|08) - -+ review.9 108 複複複栢栢栢白複複蔔栢栢栢複複複栢栢栢� 栢栢賽 査栢꾼栢幡� 査栢朋栢幡� 査栢� 査栢� 굇 賽賽査栢� � 栢栢꾼栢� � 栢栢 査栢� 複蔔栢繃栢百 複栢百査栢� 複栢百 栢께栢栢栢栢 栢栢栢栢栢栢 栢께栢栢栢栢 栢幡賽� 査百 昉幡賽� 栢幡賽� � 栢� 査栢 같 栢� 査栢 굇 --[septic.pack.9603]-------------- -- - SEPT9603.ZIP ::: Reviewed by Mindcrime of Blade Productions! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |08� 같 같같같갚갚굇껑 |15Individual Art Comments |08굉굇굅굅같같같 같 � |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |15Filename Artist Comments|07 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- FL-CODLG ANS Fire Lord Tried to hard on this logo. The shading is way too scrathy. The composition itself may be good without the shading. |08........................< |155/10 |08>..|07 FL-GLB ANS Fire Lord Pretty decent ansi. Good composition at the top, and well shaded. It gets worse toward the the bottom, but still decent. The font is kinda eek: bad colors/shading. |08........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 FL-SHIVL ANS Fire Lord Decent font, I suppose. Could have used better colors. The shading is pretty good, and the comp is at least slightly inventive. Not bad. |08........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 FL-TZLG ANS Fire Lord Ugh. This is just an ugly font. |08........................< |152/10 |08>..|07 HP-CVL2 ANS Hennifer Pretty cool logo. Good colors, very nice shade. The composition is reminiscant of old school Hannibal Lecter, on a larger scale. Well done. |08........................<|157.5/10|08>..|07 HP-DOA2 ANS Hennifer Very nice pic. Good shading, good colors, good background. The font is a bit scratchy, but I still like the idea behind it. Very nice. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 HP-DOINK ANS Hennifer Pretty cool font. Good shading, nice outline. Standard composition, though. |08........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 HP-THG1 ANS Hennifer The first font is too standard. Not very well thought out. The second is pretty nice. Nice colors, good shading. Pretty cool. |08........................<|156.5/10|08>..|07 MR-LOGO2 ANS Magnetic Rage Wow.. VERY nice fonts. Great composition, near perfect shading. Great colors. Very nicely done. |08........................< |159/10 |08>..|07 WA-BANDS ANS Warpus Hmm.. Pretty cool fonts. Decent colors, but the shading could use work. Composition is kinda lame. |08........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 WA-CONV2 ANS Warpus Pretty cool little pic/font. Good colors, decent shading. Composition is decent, but could be better. |08........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 WA-GOOP1 ANS Warpus Nice font. Great colors, very nice shading. Pretty nice composition/variation in letters. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 WA-HD5 ANS Warpus Great colors and shading on this pic. The comp is typical of new school toon-like ansis. Well done. |08........................<|15 8/10 |08>..|07 WY-COLY1 ANS Wyvern Pretty nice matrices. The colors, comp, and shading are all typical of semi-old school pics. The fonts aren't very good, could have used more work. |08........................< |157/10 |07>..|07 WY-GOOP1 ANS Wyvern Pretty nice pic. Good shading, very nice composition. The font has great colors and is decently creative. Good job. |08........................<|15 8/10 |08>..|07 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |08� 같 같같같같같같같굅굇굉� |15Best Picks |08 굉굇굅굅같같같같같같� 같 � |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Best ANSI : HP-DOA2.ANS by Hennifer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |08� 같 같같같같같갚갚굇껑 |15General Comments |08 굉굇굅굅같같같같같 같 � |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Overall a pretty good pack from Septic. I haven't seen these guys' first pack, so I was pleasently suprised with the quality of this one. Nice work from Hennifer, Magnetic Rage, Warpus, and Wyvern. With a little fine tuning, these guys could really be great. Good job. |07 ,#' |08(|15mindcrime|07::blade'legacy'acid|08) -- -+ |07.$#. |08(|07close your eyes, you can find all you need in your mind|08) - -+ review.10 207 栢栢栢幡賽栢霜栢栢輻栢栢栢栢栢� 栢栢霜蔔昉� 栢栢栢栢 幡賽栢栢栢 栢百査栢栢百査栢賞百梭栢꿀輻栢� 栢� 꾼栢栢栢 栢栢 � 꾼栢栢百査� 栢白賞栢栢栢繃栢繃繃栢栢栢� 栢� 栢霜白輻三輻白賽賽兵幡霜昉霜栢� � 꾼栢栢白賽複꾼白輻蔔賽複꾼輻� 繃栢栢白輻艀百査繃栢꿀賽栢栢白� 繃栢昉栢賽査白栢白栢棚栢栢栢幡� 白賽霜複꾼朋輻栢幡兵梭輻꾼昉霜� 栢繃栢栢幡複賽複輻霜賞栢輻霜栢� 栢 꾼栢白栢魄白複繃栢輻栢� 栢栢 百査栢栢栢霜栢� 百査栢栢百査栢� 栢輻三栢霜꾼栢繃昉 꾼栢꿉蔔栢栢 栢栢白複賞栢栢蔔百梭賽複栢栢栢� 栢栢栢栢白輻三幡霜栢栢栢栢栢栢� 栢幡霜複輻栢棚輹幡賽複複賽栢栢� 幡蔔栢栢昉輻査棚兵栢栢栢幡蔔栢� 輻三栢栢複塞꾼梭複栢栢꿉蔔栢栢� 栢白輻賽賽璽百白賽賽霜蔔栢栢栢� happy-pappy cancer debut pack!? pack #1 april 1st 1996! yay!*&@ CANCER01.ZIP ::: Reviewed by Lucifer of Blade Productions! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |08� 같 같같같갚갚굇껑 |15Individual Art Comments |08굉굇굅굅같같같 같 � |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |15Filename Artist Comments|07 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The reviewing system I used is a 1-5. 1 = didn't like 2 = nothing special 3 = whoa. that was pretty cool 4 = damn, that gave me a boner. 5 = holy shit, I just jizzed on my keyboard. CM-LC01 ANS Cheeze Monkey I liked the logos, just that some of the colors almost made me puke. |08........................< |152/5 |08>...|07 CY-6661 ANS Crayon The little toon was cool lookin, but the fonts could have been a little better. |08........................< |153/5 |08>...|07 CY-TM01 ANS Crayon For his second pic, id have to say it was pretty good, but it was lacking somthing .. the font was fucking rad though. |08........................< |152/5 |08>...|07 F3-SCM01 ANS Fringe I loved the 23liner, but i didnt really dig the font. pretty rad though. |08........................< |153/5 |08>...|07 FB-NIP01 ANS Fonebone Well.. thats about all i have to say about that. |08........................< |151/5 |08>...|07 FB-PL01 ANS Fonebone Can i say well again? |08........................< |151/5 |08>...|07 FK-CNC01 ANS Freak Wasnt bad.. but, i hated the font .. |08........................< |151/5 |08>...|07 FK-CNC01 ANS Freak This dude has his own tripped out stlye ..its pretty cool .. |08........................< |152/5 |08>...|07 FK-LNO01 ANS Freak This one really didnt impress me .. uhm, i didnt really like the font either. |08........................< |151/5 |08>...|07 FK-TND01 ANS Freak Whoa. i liked it, and the font gave me a boner. |08........................< |152/5 |08>...|07 FK-VD01 ANS Freak Bonus. i liked this one .. the wt font also ruled. |08........................< |152/5 |08>...|07 FL-ASP01 ANS Flame I have no clue what the hell it is, but is damned cool. I loved the font too ... |08........................< |154/5 |08>...|07 FL-LC01 ANS Flame Logos which totally rocked my ass. loved em. |08........................< |153/5 |08>...|07 ISE-HEAV ANS Iseilice Whoa .. that was pretty rad.. shading was poor, rad subject.. i didnt really like the font .. |08.........................< |153/5 |08>...|07 ISE-SHRM ANS Iseilice That toon was rad .. actually it ruled. the best thing was, the middle where he was throwing shrooms in his mouth. rock. |08.........................< |153/5 |08>...|07 LS-SIH01 ANS Lord Scarlet That was a damned cool pic. except, i didnt really like the font. transition could have also been better. |08.........................< |154/5 |08>...|07 MO-GUM01 ANS Mortos Ahah. that pic ruled. font could have been better though .. pretty nice .. |08.........................< |153/5 |08>...|07 MP-ARC01 ANS Mop Err.. i didnt really like it. The transition and Hair were poor.. so was the font .. |08.........................< |152/5 |08>...|07 PG-ENG GIF Pinguino I dont really pay much attention to high rez, but I thought that was neat lookin .. |08.........................< |153/5 |08>...|07 PP-MD01 ANS Pixel Pusher That was cool 23liner.. font could have been a tad better... shading on pic was good too .. |08.........................< |153/5 |08>...|07 PP-SRNG1 ANS Pixel Pusher This one gave me a very large boner. shading was good, and the font ruled. |08.........................< |154/5 |08>...|07 PX-LC01 ANS Phaser-X I loved the shroom logo, nice wart touches.. |08.........................< |153/5 |08>...|07 RS-TJT01 ANS Rusty Whoa.. that is one wacked out pic. liked it though. font was kinda unreadable though. |08.........................< |154/5 |08>...|07 TH-TTH01 ANS Tempus Hellfire Err.. i didnt really like it .. i didnt really like the font either .. 23 liner .. |08.........................< |152/5 |08>...|07 US-AD01 ANS WT+LOI Pretty rad .. the eyes and the propotionin looked hurried... nice though .. |08.........................< |154/5 |08>...|07 US-BLK01 ANS Multiple Whoa. that was all kinds of whacked out .. I loved it though .. font was pretty nice too .. |08.........................< |154/5 |08>...|07 US-DD01 ANS WT+VD+HF Pretty nice toon .. like the font .. but the pic lacked some shading.. |08.........................< |154/5 |08>...|07 WS-VD01 ANS Warrior Soul It was pretty cool .. i liked the font .. the pic lacked somthing though .. |08.........................< |153/5 |08>...|07 WT-CDI01 ANS White Trash That rules. didnt really like the font though.. |08.........................< |154/5 |08>...|07 WT-DV01 ANS White Trash Whoa. that rocked.the shading and proportioning could have been slightly better.. overall, nice pic.. font was cool too.. |08.........................< |154/5 |08>...|07 WT-ERB01 ANS White Trash This was cool, i didnt really like the font though, the eye was good ... |08.........................< |153/5 |08>...|07 WT-GLR01 ANS White Trash I could tell it was old .. not that bad though.. font could have been wayyyy better. |08.........................< |152/5 |08>...|07 WT-KNG01 ANS White Trash This one ruled. negro style. |08.........................< |153/5 |08>...|07 WT-KOG01 ANS White Trash Very cool matrix .. I dig it .. shading was pretty good too .. |08.........................< |154/5 |08>...|07 WT-OD01 ANS White Trash This one plain out kicked ass.. another nice matrix.. |08.........................< |154/5 |08>...|07 WT-TBF01 ANS White Trash Weird ass dude, but nice matrix .. didnt really like the font though.. shading on the pic was pretty good too. |08.........................< |153/5 |08>...|07 WT-TBR01 ANS White Trash Pretty cool toon .. didnt like the font all that much though. |08.........................< |153/5 |08>...|07 WT-TGC01 ANS White Trash Very cool pic, except the tits didn't look right.. shading looked ok, and the font was rad.. |08.........................< |154/5 |08>...|07 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |08� 같 같같같같같같같굅굇굉� |15Best Picks |08 굉굇굅굅같같같같같같� 같 � |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Best ANSI : FL-ASP01.ANS by Flame PP-SRNG1.ANS by Pixel Pusher WT-DV01.ANS by White Trash ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |08� 같 같같같같같갚갚굇껑 |15General Comments |08 굉굇굅굅같같같같같 같 � |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Overall, it's a was a very rad pack.. |15-lucifer review.11 88 � 꿀� � 03.96 � 複棚� � 煞� 겨複� 栢百 � 複幡 蔔栢꿀 蔔� 蔔複 賽견 � 査� 꿀� � 輻栢昉 꾼幡栢百 栢幡r栢栢겪栢百 꾼百査栢霜 兵겪白 栢� g 賽署査� 査꿇 栢栢 査昉y栢斌꿀 蔔賞百査百 複白� 栢� � t 賽昉璽百 蔔幡白 殯蔔� 栢� 殯栢幡白� � 겨蔔꿀査� 査� 栢白꿇 賞꿀 査� 璽� 栢� 栢栢 査栢朋兵百蔔昉幡 丙輻� 栢腑 複栢� 璽栢百 꾼百蔔栢署긋� � � 婦 賞白꾼署 � � 輻�査� 꿉 丙� �� 百 賞� 栢百 � 査 査 gravity (oh-tree-nine-꿉�seeex) jt꿇 三� 蔔� � � � � � GVT-0396.ZIP ::: Reviewed by Mindcrime of Blade Productions! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |08� 같 같같같갚갚굇껑 |15Individual Art Comments |08굉굇굅굅같같같 같 � |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |15Filename Artist Comments|07 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC-EVIL ANS Clorox Cowboy Hmm.. Pretty cool matrix style ansi. The font could have been better, but the pic has decent colors, alright composition. The shading is okay, but could have been better. |08........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 CC-FFG ANS Clorox Cowboy Pretty nice. Good color usage, but the shading is week in parts. Parts of the pic and font are too 'scratchy' like. The face isn't all that good. |08........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 DL-7GATE ANS Deathlok Standard font. |08........................< |154/10 |08>..|07 DL-GRAV ANS Deathlok Pretty good looking font. Not sure what the background is supposed to be or why it's styled that way, but the font itself uses great colors and nice shading. Good comp. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 G40-COL2 ANS Glock40 The Diet Cola font was clearly ripped from Subconsciousness of Blade, and the rest of the fonts basically suck. Bad shading, bad colors, lame composition. |08........................< |152/10 |08>..|07 SH-BFLGO ANS Shatters Pretty cool little logo. I kinda like the black/white effect.. Always have. Decent comp, good shading. |08........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 SH-ENDLS ANS Shatters Nice font. Good shading, great colors, nifty background. Overall a very nice font. |08........................< |158/10 |08>..|07 SH-GLSS2 ANS Shatters Pretty cool font. The colors nice, but the shading is a bit too dark. Good composition. |08........................<|157.5/10|08>..|07 SH-GSMTX ANS Shatters Decent matrix, but it looks like it needs to be a full lenght pic. Doesn't fit well on 23 lines.. Good colors, nice shading. |08........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 PT-TU1 RIP Pitt Ugh. Lame. |08........................< |153/10 |08>..|07 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |08� 같 같같같같같같같굅굇굉� |15Best Picks |08 굉굇굅굅같같같같같같� 같 � |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Best ANSI : CC-FFG.ANS by Clorox Cowboy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |08� 같 같같같같같갚갚굇껑 |15General Comments |08 굉굇굅굅같같같같같 같 � |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hmm.. Not a bad pak from Gravity. Mostly just fonts, but the few 23 liners and the 1 big pic were pretty nice. I'd suggest that some of their artists try out pics. Shatters seems like he'd be quite good at full lengthers. |07 ,#' |08(|15mindcrime|07::blade'legacy'acid|08) -- -+ |07.$#. |08(|07close your eyes, you can find all you need in your mind|08) - -+ review.12 116 輻 � 輻 霜 � 輻 霜� � 死 賽幡幡� 幡賽� 霜� 死 死 複� � � 幡� 複� � � � 蔔 � 幡賽賽賽賽� 輻 複賽 � 死 賽� 複輻� � � 霜複� 幡賽 賽賽� � � 賽霜 � � 賽賽賽複 霜 � � 霜 � � 白 輻� 死 死 � 賽賽賽賽賽� 輻 複� � 輻 幡賽賽賞� 賽賽賽賽 輻 賽賽賽賽� 霜 輻白複複複複賽 � l e p e r s o c i e t y pack xiii � march 96 LS-0396.ZIP ::: Reviewed by Mindcrime of Blade Productions! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |08� 같 같같같갚갚굇껑 |15Individual Art Comments |08굉굇굅굅같같같 같 � |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |15Filename Artist Comments|07 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- GI-DO_12 ANS Giger Hmm.. I can tell this pak is gunna be hard on me. This ansi is 'okay' ... Decent shading, okay colors. The composition is wierd, could have been alot better in parts. |08........................< |156/10 |08>..|07 GI-DO_14 ANS Giger Ugly font. Bad colors, terrible composition, shading is just not cool. |08........................< |153/10 |08>..|07 GI-DOM_7 ANS Giger Ugh.. The composition on the pic is pretty bad, and the shading us terrible. Color choice is too plain, not enough color shades. The font is just ugly |08........................< |155/10 |08>..|07 GI-FONT1 ANS Giger This guy should not be doing logos. |08........................< |153/10 |08>..|07 GI-LOA ANS Giger Like I said, this guys fonts blow. Terrible colors, warped shading, very bad composition. |08........................< |153/10 |08>..|07 GI-LS ANS Giger Remember what I said about his fonts? Yep. |08........................< |153/10 |08>..|07 GI-OP ANS Giger Very reminiscent of stone the crow fonts, but worse. |08........................< |154/10 |08>..|07 GI-WRAIT ANS Giger That font might be one of the ugliest fonts i've ever seen. |08........................< |151/10 |08>..|07 PP-ECKS ANS Phorce Phed Man. This group just has some lame fonts... What the hell is up with the colors? If this was well colored and shaded, it might have been halfway cool, because the comp is okay. The background is just plain black. ugh. |08........................< |153/10 |08>..|07 PP-LOA ANS Phorce Phed Next time you draw, take some time. |08........................< |154/10 |08>..|07 PP-MAIN ANS Phorce Phed AGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MY EYES! HOLY PD! |08........................< |150/10 |08>..|07 PP-SENSE ANS Phorce Phed Colors and shading are horrible, but for a small font the composition is halfway decent. |08........................< |154/10 |08>..|07 PP-SPAM ANS Phorce Phed Hmm.. Black and white is cool, but it could use some shading. and the comp is just terrible. |08........................< |154/10 |08>..|07 RM-COLLY ANS Rumish Hmm.. Ascii.. Not too bad. |08........................< |156/10 |07>..|07 GI-DOM2 JPG Giger Shwew.. Finally something that doesn't hurt my eyes when i look at it. Giger should stick to vga, cuz this is kinda cool. Good colors, nice composition. The font is odd, but cool. |08........................< |157/10 |08>..|07 GI-LEP1 JPG Giger Hmm.. pretty cool. I like the sky-swirl effect, that looks cool. The dimensions on the bottom things are kinda warped. Don't work too well. Nice background, but it doesn't look like Giger drew it. |08........................< |155/10 |08>..|07 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |08� 같 같같같같같같같굅굇굉� |15Best Picks |08 굉굇굅굅같같같같같같� 같 � |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Best VGA : GI-DOM2.JPG by Giger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |08� 같 같같같같같갚갚굇껑 |15General Comments |08 굉굇굅굅같같같같같 같 � |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Now I realize why i've never downloaded a pack from Leper Society. This was one of the worst packs i've seen in a good long while. If those two vga's had been like the ansi, I might have just turned off my computer. |07 ,#' |08(|15mindcrime|07::blade'legacy'acid|08) -- -+ |07.$#. |08(|07close your eyes, you can find all you need in your mind|08) - -+ review.13 1 review.14 1 review.15 1 iv.1 179 |07 Beyond The Horizon Interview Copyright 1996 Beyond Enterprises |13 긁� � 같複複殯昉굅 � |13 긋 査昉� 複兵栢꿉賽賽 複� |08------------------------- |13 꾼栢꿉煞 栢� 같 査� nt |15Stone The Crow (Legend) |13 같複兵꾼幡 � 殯� 갛百같複� |13� 갚꿉賽 賽賞百� 栢� 蔔昉賽賽栢棚 |07interview: |15shivan bastard |13 같 殯栢� 査껑 査꿉 殯栢� |07date: |15March 16, 1996 |13 蔔昉� 蔔꿉 갛껐 蔔蔔� |07media: |15IRC (#bth) |13 같긁査꿉賽 � � 갚굅 � 굉幡薩 |08------------------------- |13 賽� � � |15 ok |15 im tanked now. ;) |07 hey bro.. i noticed some nice ansis of yours in the legend |07 pack, is that your primary group now? |15 yea, primary for now. thanks. I'll have some better work |15 for the next pack. |07 what happened with you and acid? |15 Got burned out on it. Didn't feel like i belonged there |15 anymore. Didnt feel the same to me as when i first joined. I |15 got the feeling noone (including rad man) realy cared about it |15 anymore. Hard to explain, but there isnt any ONE thing that |15 caused me to leave. |07 realy? i think we have all noticed a drop in the quality |07 of the ACID packs.. how do you feel about dual grouping? is |07 legend going to stick around for a while? |15 Dual grouping is unnecessary. There's no point in it. |15 I figure most dual groupers simply don't have the balls to say |15 "NO" to all the guys that are aksing them to join their groups |15 when they're already in a group. |15 As far as legend goes, I figure it'll stick around for |15 awhile. We've pivked up some cool talent and its popularity |15 continues to grow with each pack. |07 I totaly agree with your dual-grouping thoughts .. and |07 i'm glad to here legend is still kicking .. you + grimlock + |07 iodine + somms = kickass group ;) |15 hehe Yeah, all those guys have always been among my top |15 favorites. They all have a distinct style. Everlast and |15 Neurotic do too. |07 ive never realy cared for everlast's style, but yea |07 neurotic is the man (i actualy paid him for an ansi) |07 Now lets move to something else youve been involved with in |07 the last few months, crash n burn.. one of the longest lasting |07 art scene mags i can remember.. whats in store for the future |07 of CNB? |15 Gawd, right now CnB is on the back burner. Not dead, |15 but i have some other things to do right now. For one, I have |15 to get settled into legend and Im drawing a hell of a lot more |15 than i ever did with ACiD so I don't have alot of time to code |15 CnB. |15 Once i get settled I'll pick back up with CnB. I love |15 coding so there's no reason for CnB to die. I just have to |15 take a break once in a while. That goes with anything in life. |07 yea i agree.. i was impressed with the coding in CnB .. |07 realizing that you are an artist first, i didnt expect anything |07 of that quality.. if you ever need any help coding wise, just |07 drop me a line.. |15 Oh yea, everyone keeps asking me about the 0296 CNB, |15 well, it'll be out soon. Im just trying to get some time to |15 finish it up. maybe this weekend it'll be done. |15 sb: I could use some help. ;) I appreciate it. |15 I coded it in pascal, which i happen to love. If i had |15 more time and desire I could realy excel at it, but at the |15 moment i enjoy art more. Always have. |07 I released the source code to BTH issue 2, that should |07 be a start.. Im still working with the damn ansi scrolling ;( |07 .. yea i code in pascal too, plan on picking up C++ and going |07 to college for it though. |15 Hey, lets trade source. I released the source to |15 cnb-0196. |15 What i need is some good vga viewing source. |15 i got yours already ;) .. you can just grab mine whenever |15 you want - http://jax.gulfnet.com/user_pages/murray (my page) |15 killer, thanks. |08 [ about 5 minutes of code trading ] |07 ok cool .. lets continue.. |07 How do you feel about new groups? Just recently I've |07 noticed alot of recruiting in irc for questionable new groups |07 founded by self claimed 'all stars' of the scene. |15 I've noticed that too. ;) |15 Well, I used to be down on the groups pretty hard. But |15 lately Ive come to the conclusion that the scene is better for |15 having them. |15 You see, most of the hot new artists out there today |15 (Halaster, P1, Lemonade, KhZ, Grimlock, ect) got their starts |15 in the small groups. So I think they're cool even though I |15 don't look at their packs most of the time because they suck. ;) |15 Face it, a potentially great artist is in everyone, I |15 think. If they neverget the chance to develop theirstyle and |15 technique then its our loss. |07 I feel the same way too.. I think the natural progression |07 is when a few artists start a small group in there areacode, |07 develop, then the better ones move to national groups. I just |07 get sick of these lamers who pick a bunch of artists from not |07 so good groups, and think they're gonna be the next Legend. |15 Yeah, but its hard not to want to take a shot at running |15 a group. I did it once a couple of years ago. Alter Ego did |15 it and many more besides. So, if they blow then just blow |15 them off. hehe |15 Most guys just want to make a name for themselves. Some |15 succeed and most don't. The only sure way of making a name |15 for yourself is over a period of time and quality work to back |15 your name up. |07 heh.. yea.. i guess its just natural to want to be in |07 charge.. ok well what do you think about the internet.. is it |07 killing bbs's (and to a lesser extent, the need for ansi?!) |15 Killing the bbs scene, yes. Ansi, no. Its simple |15 enough to convert ansi to vga... I dont think ANSi is going |15 to die. It's just another art form. maybe the popularity |15 will ease off but then again look at ascii. It's highly |15 popular right now but hardly visually stunning to look at if |15 you ask me. ;) |07 Yea I guess I agree with that too.. well lets see.. do |07 you have any predictions about the way the art scene will |07 move in the next year or so? as far as groups, individuals, |07 mediums, ect.. |15 Yeah ice and acid will still be there and most like 3 |15 or 4 of the so-called smallergroups. Fire is kicking some |15 major ass lately, man. I think they ARE in the top 3. I see |15 them on top a couple times in 96. Ascii artists still won't |15 get and respect (Hehe j/k). hell, the scene will basically |15 be more of the same in 96. Some new faces some old ones |15 leaving and maybe even a few of the legendary artists of the |15 scene making a brief reappearance. Who knows. It's a free |15 for all out there. |15 ANSi will still be the main medium of the scene too. |07 hmm.. is there anything else you'd like to add, about the |07 art scene, or your personal endeavors? |15 I'm just going to keep drawing. That's about it. It |15 gives me personal satisfaction. If one group dies out from |15 under me I'll join another. I like the freedom. hehe |15 Greets go out to Legend, Syntax, Sinned Soul, Halaster, and |15 Crisis. And Beyond the Horizon is looking good. Whatever |15 happened to Infinity? Later... |07 infinity is supposedly coming out with issue 5 soon.. |07 your mag looks great too,.. thanks for the time.. |15 no problem, later dude.. iv.2 263 |07 Beyond The Horizon Interview Copyright 1996 Beyond Enterprises |13 긁� � 같複複殯昉굅 � |13 긋 査昉� 複兵栢꿉賽賽 複� |08------------------------- |13 꾼栢꿉煞 栢� 같 査� nt |15Bedlam (Mop) |13 같複兵꾼幡 � 殯� 갛百같複� |13� 갚꿉賽 賽賞百� 栢� 蔔昉賽賽栢棚 |07interview: |15shivan bastard |13 같 殯栢� 査껑 査꿉 殯栢� |07date: |15March 18, 1996 |13 蔔昉� 蔔꿉 갛껐 蔔蔔� |07media: |15IRC (#bth) |13 같긁査꿉賽 � � 갚굅 � 굉幡薩 |08------------------------- |13 賽� � � |08 Session Start: Sun Feb 18 16:52:50 1996 |08 *** Now talking in #bth |08 *** bedlam (~mcgrath@chi1-011.wwa.com) has joined #bth |15 k |07 <_sb> hey man.. glad you could join.. first off i want to ask |07 you about mop. how long has it been around? |15 well, it started out in the summer of 95 |15 it was originally intended to be a mag about the 708 |15 AC, but evolved to an art group... |15 but after 4 packs (from june to sept) we took a |15 lOOONG break till feb. |15 now we're back with a whole new crew. |07 <_sb> (so i noticed heh) who's in charge now, i haven't realy |07 followed mop that much |15 well, tweed and bobtj are still founders (tho bob |15 doesn't do hardly anything) and i'm the coordinator. #28 was |15 a coord but he's quit the scene so he's alumni. |15 a couple of complete unknowns from the chicago |15 suburbs until they started mOp. |15 well, we're happy to have CatBones on the memberlist. |07 <_sb> speaking of CatBones.. that brings up the whole ACiD |07 conflict.. you seem to have some bad feelings against radman |07 and the acid dual grouping policy.. would you mind elaborating? |15 i dont have anything against radman or acid in general |15 (although i do have some private conflicts and general feelings |15 i'd rather not disclose publicly) |15 but... |15 when i wanted to start mOp up again, radman wouldn't |15 let me. |15 i was already toying with quitting acid, it just |15 wasn't that much fun. then him making me quit my other groups |15 was the last straw. |15 radman and ellisdee (who was a coord at the time) |15 basically laughed at me for quitting acid for "a stupid no-name |15 local group" |15 but now who's laughing? =) according to Ankh (unbiased |15 opinion mind you) mOp was #3... or #4 if you assume acid |15 would've been on top. |15 and as far as cat goes, he's my pal. i'm doing his web |15 page, and he's doing lots of stuff for me and for mOp. radman |15 wouldn't be stupid enough to kick him out of ACiD, and that |15 threat is the only one keeping people from dualing... |15 and cat likes mOp ALOT (he's said this a dozen times) |15 so he wont be quitting any time soon. |07 <_sb> i think i remember some of this from agoranet.. so you |07 dont like the dual grouping policy in acid? |15 i think that as long as an artist proves he can keep |15 up his share of the work, why not let him be in other groups? |15 as long as its not the main competition... dualing in acid and |15 ice is stupid.. but acid and mOp? not a big deal. |15 and for the record, i released AT LEAST one thing per |15 month, for 13 months. |15 so they had no reason for making me quit. |07 <_sb> Ankh? i remember the name but i cant recall exactly what |07 it is? |07 <_sb> a web site? |15 yes. |15 Ankh is a new revolution in grading art. |15 i've founded it, magnetic m grades and codes for it, |15 and catbones helps with the gfx. |15 i hope to make it the standard source for pack |15 ratings. |15 its on its way there aleady, since i dont know of any |15 other page or emag that grades packs as extensively as Ankh. |15 its more like a club than a group. |15 we all get along GREAT. |15 and there's a feeling of friendship and all out wacky |15 fun that i've never experienced anywhere else. |15 that attitude is primarily thanx to bobtj, who is the |15 most fun person i've ever had the pleasure to talk to... |15 people talk to him for a half hour on the phone and end up |15 begging to join mOp... case in point: maestro. |07 <_sb> whats the URL for ankh? |15 http://shoga.wwa.com/~mcgrath/ankh/ |15 and while i'm mentioning it, just go to |15 http://shoga.wwa.com/~mcgrath/ for a listing of all my web |15 pages... my homepage, ankh, and the mOp web page |07 <_sb> i think ill load it up real quick so we can go into more |07 detail about it |07 <_sb> while that loads up lets talk about the internet for a |07 second.. you seem to be very fluent in HTML, do you think it |07 is reducing the need for BBS's? |15 definitely |15 especially with all the new web board softwares coming |15 out |15 Hopefully lots of people will put links to Ankh. |15 it'll soon be one of the most important art scene web pages... |15 on par with superunknown, tash, and the acid page. |07 <_sb> i've seen your riot city home page. it was very nice. |07 that reminds me i need to link ankh on my page.. and i think |07 superunknown is very overrated. |15 heh, thanx man, i haven't had time to touch it |15 between doing ankh and catbones' page, skeletal remains |15 (coming soon to a server near you) |15 superunknown is what i strive to make ankh like. |15 very informational, and beautiful. |15 say what you will about it, everyone in the scene has |15 seen it a few times... i hope that's what happens with ankh, |15 and i'm pretty confident that it will. |15 you may see similarities between superunknown and |15 ankh.. cuz my philosophy is "if it works, rip it" =) |07 <_sb> superunknown uses to many frames in my opinion.. i think |07 neurotics homepage uses a very good layout with frames |07 <_sb> [about ankh] although the ratings look very precise .. |07 and i agree almost 100% except there is a group missing .. ACID? |15 ACiD didn't release this month. |15 that's why there's no rating for it. |15 i think it's safe to assume it would be either 1 or 2. |07 <_sb> ahh of course.. the last pack was so late i almost forgot. |15 and on the subject of the grades, me and magnetic m |15 have worked out a new grading system which will be |15 implemented in march |15 but that's all to come after i finish all the features |15 of the page first.. i still am missing a few things... |15 in fact, myself, floodmyth, magneticm, and my friend |15 utopia are planning to have a "top ten scene pages" or |15 something to that effect... that way the people in the scene |15 will constantly strive to make their pages better.. we should |15 see some great sites |07 <_sb> i've noticed 'bedlam art and web services' tagged at the |07 bottom of your pages.. are you movving to the more professional |07 aspects of computer art/design? |15 yeah, somewhat... i need a place where people can go |15 if they want to buy a page from me. |15 as things look right now, i'm considering going into |15 web pages as a living... |15 I'm hoping to join up with a more established company |15 though, either DJ-Quad's Webmasters or Floodmyth's UltraMega |07 <_sb> yea i agree.. well what do you think about IRC is it good |07 for the art scene, or does it cause to many new groups to get |07 in the way of better art? |15 i think new groups would start anyway, irc just allows |15 them to become more widespread. in general it helps the scene... |15 98% of my requests come from irc. |15 and i get 98% of the stuff for my pages from guys on |15 irc too... its all give and take. |07 <_sb> What do you think about the future of ANSI as an |07 acceptable art medium? is High res taking over for good? |15 ansi will be dead by 98. even if the internet DOESN'T |15 take over BBSing completely, by that time SOMEONE will find a |15 way to make hires useable on bbss. |15 but hey, people will still do ansis. I still do RIPs |15 and those haven't been used on bbss for the longest time... |15 they're popular as an art medium, if not as an online gfx |15 emulation |07 <_sb> yea i agree.. i recently sold my entire bbs setup for |07 $600 feels good to get it off my hands. now i hopefully will |07 be able to spend more time working on my coding and html design |07 <_sb> i think ansi will survive as an art medium, even if bbs' |07 don't, i just hope the artists will get off this font craze |15 hehe... wow, 600 bux... i wonder how |15 much i could get for Lan's Laughter =) |15 Lan's is never up, i'm on the internet or drawing so |15 much... its up at night and while i'm at school =) |15 (708-749-9621 btw) |15 yeah i hate fonts. which, i might add, ankh will be |15 reviewing all logos as one big logocolly... thought i might |15 mention that |07 <_sb> (that was a nice plug for the board number ;) speaking of |07 your bbs, would you ever consider putting it up for telnet? |15 um, i'd like to but that takes time, money, energy, |15 and some kind of multitasker... all stuff i lack. |15 but hey, if anyone else wants the setup and wants to |15 put it up for me, lemme know mcgrath@wwa.com =) |07 <_sb> well is there anything else you would like to add? about |07 mop, the internet, or this shithole we call the 'art scene'? |15 ummm, well, Ankh is a revolution... check it out. |15 mOp needs more members, especially ansi-pic guys.. i suppose |15 that's all. |07 <_sb> any last comments? greets? |15 greets: catbones, bobtj, tweed, ruckus, puppet master, |15 floodmyth, mom, president clinton, mr potato head, and Wierd Al. |07 <_sb> alright thanks for your time.. iv.3 316 |07 Beyond The Horizon Interview Copyright 1996 Beyond Enterprises |13 긁� � 같複複殯昉굅 � |13 긋 査昉� 複兵栢꿉賽賽 複� |08------------------------- |13 꾼栢꿉煞 栢� 같 査� nt |15Halaster (Fire) |13 같複兵꾼幡 � 殯� 갛百같複� |13� 갚꿉賽 賽賞百� 栢� 蔔昉賽賽栢棚 |07interview: |15sb+9h |13 같 殯栢� 査껑 査꿉 殯栢� |07date: |15March 22, 1996 |13 蔔昉� 蔔꿉 갛껐 蔔蔔� |07media: |15IRC (#bth) |13 같긁査꿉賽 � � 갚굅 � 굉幡薩 |08------------------------- |13 賽� � � |08 Session Start: Thu Feb 22 15:53:21 1996 |08 *** pus`fire (~kevinf@GN-205-161-161-34.gulfnet.com) has joined #bth |08 *** h4laster (~kates@UNIX20.ANDREW.CMU.EDU) has joined #bth |15 ack. <_sb> whats up halaster?! |15 have to hide from the evil messagers. :) |15 nothing much, sb .. |07 <_sb> this is shivan bastard .. i think youve seen me in |07 agora, speed net |15 yep. |15 don't carry agora, but speednet - yes. |07 <_sb> cool.. whats up with arpeggio? |15 well .. i'm no longer really friends with it's |15 maintainer. :) which makes it hard to manage. |15 also, it's being upgraded or something. i'm |15 planning on moving it to a PC soon .. 1.2 gigs or so of |15 storage. |07 <_sb> ahh.. well it wasnt online last i checked.. when do you |07 expect it to be back up? |15 hard to say. it all depends. there's a chance that |15 it'll stay on it's present home (an amiga3000) upstairs or |15 move, like i said. |15 dammit .. one of my friends just zephyred me. :) |15 messed up my irc screen. |15 i'm ok now. |07 <_sb> alright cool.. so is the regency down too? |15 no. this is a common point of confusion. :) the |15 regency is completely unrelated to arpeggio. |15 the regency is on my pc. :) while arpeggio is, as i |15 said, upstairs on an amiga. |15 my ultimate goal is to make the regency also have an |15 ftp site that mirrors it's file bases. but that could take a |15 while. |07 the regency is one of the best art boards on the |07 scene .. |15 pus - thanks. :) |07 never called it |15 pus - even better. :) it's reputation preceeds it. :) |07 <_sb> i called it once, nice setup.. ok now whats going on with |07 fire? the febuary pack was incredible |15 thanks .. any questions you'd like answered |15 specifically? :) there's a lot to talk about. |07 <_sb> heh.. lets see.. is it true you guys are going to NAID? |15 i think so. :) that project's being handled by lord |15 cracker. he's working on a demo, code-named fume. :) so far |15 nothing much has been done, and we certainly don't plan on |15 winning. but we shall represent the ansi scene with pride. :) |07 <_sb> cool.. what do ya think about the ansi scene these days |07 is it better or worse? |15 better or worse than when? |07 <_sb> than when you first came into the scene. |15 ok .. i came in in about october of '94 .. which was |15 the heyday of relic and the birth of the first fire. union was |15 also rocking ass at the time. .. ice and acid had a good |15 rivalry going too. |15 erm .. i don't really like it as much now, but that's |15 mainly because it was all new to me back then. |15 but it has gotten a lot better recently, from my |15 point of view. |15 a lot of my friends have returned and i'm working on |15 a lot of cool projects, including fire and shazam! |15 so things are great in my corner. :) |07 <_sb> yea i think its doing a little better now.. do you think |07 the scene will move more into high rez in the next few years, |07 or will ansi be around forever? |15 oh i have no idea. to me, the death of ansi will be |15 when pc's stop having pc-dos fonts. :) until then, it'll hang |15 on. ansi also has a home in the hi-rez world .. it can really |15 spice up web pages if done right. when the reg goes web, |15 it'll be spiffy ansi converted to vga. with rad |15 imagemaps instead of lightbars. |15 and some vga too .. perhaps a choice of the two |15 setups. |07 do you think fire will be competitive as far as the |07 groups go in the future? |15 i think fire can be in the top 3 for as long as it's |15 members continue to care. and it'll stay alive for as long as |15 p1 and i have the nads to run it, which could, from my end, be |15 for the next 3-4 years .. perhaps even beyond. i have no |15 desire to kill the group early .. |15 i have no real drive to hit #1 either .. just |15 compete. |07 <_sb> i think from the looks of the last pack, fire has a real |07 chance of getting to #1, its nice to see a group break up the |07 acid-ice struggle .. just dont merge into acid! |07 yea i was pleased when blade got the #5 position on |07 Ankh (PLUG! PLUG!) |15 bwahahah. the chances of fire merging with acid are |15 about as likely as a saga + union revivial-merge called |15 sunion-aga/x2! .. put it this way: it's not going to happen. |15 i'd love to hit #1 once or twice, but i have no need |15 to stay there indefinately. |15 besides, that's an unrealistic goal. |07 <_sb> heh.. cool yea #1 is alot of unneeded pressure .. the |07 point is to have fun |15 fun and kick ass, yes.:) i don't buy that "just to |15 have fun" crap. :) |07 <_sb> whats going on with Shazam? |07 <_sb> when will the first issue be released? |15 shazam .. um .. is kinda in a period of transition. :) |07 <_sb> transition? whats going on with it? |15 ok .. here's the deal: iodine and i were going to do |15 it ourselves. but now he's wussing out after the first ish |15 (which should be out soon.) .. so i have some new ideas. wanna |15 hear 'em? |07 i heard rumors that prisoner #1 was dropping fire .. ? |15 pus - bwahaha number 2. |15 pus - p1 is my brother! we are siamese twins of the |15 soul! we rock ass, daddio. |07 <_sb> yea .. is it coded? or just an ansi type |07 zine like vagina? |15 sb - coded .. real neat compiler too .. modular as |15 balls. i can change all the ansi files and then run make.exe |15 to compile a new version with fresh datafiles .. it's all |15 mci-code based too, which is rad. plus variables for the |15 scrollspead and fades and stuff. |15 thank maxwell. |15 regarding the future of the mag - i want to make it |15 a complete scene-covering thingy. i'm trying to recruit the |15 following to help me: |15 napalm[cia], syntax error[ice], catbones[acid], |15 ts[teklordz], pushead[blade], me[fire], trip[apathy] or noot |15 .. to do stuff. |15 maxwell coded it. :) |07 that's a nice team of artists .. i'm interested to |07 see what shizam will look like .. |15 and grimlock[legend] should also help out .. w |15 iodine. :) |07 <_sb> thats cool.. unbiased opinions.. so what will it involve? |07 pack reviews? |15 pus - looks are secondary. i want group updates and |15 unbiased reviews. :) |07 of course quality in the content is very important |07 in an emag .. that's why i liked bth #3 (plug! plug!) |07 what did you think about beyond the horizon issue #3 ? |15 pus - 'twas rad. liked it a lot. it's a shame that |15 it shall have to be destroyed. :) |07 <_sb> bth shall never be destroyed! ;) |15 sb - group updates, news, articles (no scene sucks |15 crap) and reviews. |15 interviews by milk and cheese. :) |07 <_sb> what about salami? |15 sb - keep your mind out of the gutter, boy! |15 :) |07 <_sb> anyway.. what else is going on with you these days? any |07 other projects besides shazam, fire, and arpeggio? |15 erm .. the regency. :) and i plan on colonizing the |15 Forest Moon of Endor sooner or later. :) naw, seriously .. |15 i'm just working on art besides all that shit. :) |07 <_sb> watch out for the storm troppers! |15 sb - indeed! |07 hey punk .. favorite artists : |15 pus - contemporary or of all time? |07 <_sb> both |15 all time: somms, eerie, pnakotic, ktulu, iodine, |15 #28, tempus thales, toon goon. |15 contemporary: somms, eerie, ktulu, iodine, |15 toon goon, nootropic, splint. |15 and tack gwar on the all time list, too. :) he |15 ruled. |07 <_sb> cool.. what about groups? what were your favorite groups |07 of all time? |15 relic .. that's it really. :) relic rocked ass. |07 inspirations : |15 pus - all the all timers. :) pnakotic, eerie and |15 iodine are the greatest. |15 and donut hole, who taught me how to |15 draw with ktulu! |15 erm .. with thedraw, with ktulu's help. :) |07 hmm .. how do you teach someone to draw ansi? |15 pus - it can be done .. a lot of artists need it |15 too. :) there are basic rules, i believe, that a lot of guys |15 with a great deal of potential just don't know. :) |07 alright .. |07 who would you want to fuck in the back of a school |07 bus ? |15 pus - your mom. oops! already did that. :) |07 alright faggot i'm kickin your ass and all your |07 little pyro fruitees |07 <_sb> heh .. anyway .. hal - is ther anything else you would |07 like to add, about the scene, fire, or any of your other |07 projects? |15 sb - not really. :) it's also important to note |15 that most of these "projects" of mine aren't mine at all. :) |15 fire is a complete team effort. shazam is, as well .. and |15 arpeggio was not maintained by me, really. :) |07 <_sb> alright well i guess this raps it up then.. is there any |07 greets you wanna throw out? |15 sure. greets to frak, max, rolf, tonycha, arthur, |15 myee! and all the rest of the shmoes who i regularly abuse. |15 :) |07 <_sb> alright thanks for your time man.. |15 sure 'nuff. thanks for the interview. :) |07 <_sb> later.. good luck with fire! |15 thanks. ok ............ i guess we're done. :) |07 <_sb> yep... talk to ya in speednet |15 ok cool. iv.4 299 |07 Beyond The Horizon Interview Copyright 1996 Beyond Enterprises |13 긁� � 같複複殯昉굅 � |13 긋 査昉� 複兵栢꿉賽賽 複� |08------------------------- |13 꾼栢꿉煞 栢� 같 査� nt |15Mr. Muff (CiA) |13 같複兵꾼幡 � 殯� 갛百같複� |13� 갚꿉賽 賽賞百� 栢� 蔔昉賽賽栢棚 |07interview: |15sb + 9h |13 같 殯栢� 査껑 査꿉 殯栢� |07date: |15March 26, 1996 |13 蔔昉� 蔔꿉 갛껐 蔔蔔� |07media: |15IRC (#bth) |13 같긁査꿉賽 � � 갚굅 � 굉幡薩 |08------------------------- |13 賽� � � |08Session Start: Mon Feb 26 17:31:30 1996 |08 sup muff |15 i'll be rite bak, gotaa look at some ansis real quick |15 ok lets go |08 hey muff i'm going to ask you some questions too |08alright ? |15 ok, cool |08<_sb> So when is the much anticipated infinity #5 coming out? |15 should be within the week, we have to finish up some |15loose ends and beta test the mag, hopefully before bth comes |15out, but who the hell knows :) |08<_sb> Whos the coder this issue? or it that another confidential |08cia secret? |15 sb: thats a secret also, but you won't be dissapointed |15by the coding :) |08 muff : everyone gets your mag confused with our |08business, so you're going to drop it immediately |15 hehehe, well, whats yer business |08 we supposedly do webpages & other computer services, |08we just haven't got around to it yet ;) .. great mag by the way! |08<_sb> infiniti with a I though.. much cooler ;) |08 sb : of course! |08<_sb> yea.. heh.. the last infinity issue i saw was coded very |08nicely. who did most of the content? (reviews,articles,ect..) |15 thanx |15 in that issue articles were written by myself, |15superfly, vyrus, penguino, ahh, fuck don't know who else, but |15the reviews were mostly handled by me and superfly, some other |15people too, but your asking too much for me to go back that |15far :P |08<_sb> what about #5 i mean.. did alot of people contribute? |15 ohh, yeah, alot of people, nootropic, kadaver, napalm, |15me, dev, mistawho, khz, tron, parasite, ellis dee, miriabilia, |15stc, and some others, we have real good articles, along with |15artwork :) |08 hey muff, since this is going to be published |08probably after the release of the cia march pack, would you |08please enlighten us on some of the secret activities that have |08been going on lately with cia ? |15 ahahah, everyone wants to know, but i'm not able to |15comment quite yet, but you will be shocked, as well as |15impressed |15 i take the 5th amendment |08 will i ? |08<_sb> great.. glad to hear about infinity. i hear cia picked |08up alot of new guys, was there a possible merger this month? |08 if i'm impressed i'll quit fire & join cia. |15 i can say this, our ansi department will rock |08<_sb> not that impressed.. cant ever be in the same group as |08nightblade |15 sb: kinda, we had more members join |08 ooooh goodness you regulated .. but if nightblade |08leaves, it dies .. |15 pushead: like i told you, i'll see you app :) |15 nb is really cool, and has helped us quite a bit |08 yea randy is pretty cool .. but he joins groups, |08doesn't release for them, then they die heh |08<_sb> randy is cool |08<_sb> i just dont agree with his group a week policy |15 cia will not die, it almost did, but napalm re-vived |15it, i have the upmost respect for andy |15 yeah, i think he found his place, if not, i wish him |15well wherevr he goes to |08 can you give us anything? some members who are |08joining? its an emag, we're supposed to know the good stuff |08before anyone else! |08<_sb> thats cool.. he seems cool in person.. anyway.. (we need |08to interview him next).. what else is new with cia? |15 mmm, it's tempting, very tempting |08 do i have to beg mr. muff? |08<_sb> comon! its pusheads 18th birthday?! |08 yea muff it's my 18th birthday, squeel a little for |08us .. randy alright told me a few people joined .. khz .. |08thrasher .. etc |15 ok, well with the addition of new members, we have |15our viewer making a comeback with our viewer, a different name, |15 fuck, i wrote it wrong :) |15 yeah, killa hertz did join, along with thraser |08<_sb> oh yea, some guy was asking me for the bladeview/2 |08source. wanted new vga routines for cia.. ive always liked |08intenseview. whats the name of the new coder? |15 i tell you what, if you guessed who joined, i'll agree |15to it |08 your viewer? hmm .. i bet it's nothing compared to |08bladeview/2 muff. |08 muff : i already guessed 2 people, gimme some hints |15 sb: now, that would ruin the big suprise, it will be |15called wire tap |08<_sb> damnit pushead.. its people like you that make everyone |08think i have too much of a ego |08 and is randy actually going to release this time? |08(not ragging on him at all, he just never releases) |08<_sb> what are you talking about, he released my green nuclear |08holocaust font in 4 different packs! |15 yeah, randy has some stuff |08<_sb> ok is CIA expanding its precense on the net? last i |08checked you guys had a new FTP site. |15 yeah, our ftp site is outland.cyberwar.com, all apps, |15submissions can be put up on there |08<_sb> thats definately cool.. arpeggio is just to |08unreliable .. and cdrom com is slow or down |08alot too |08 hah .. bladeview/2 is the best .. murray is the best |08coder i've ever seen .. heard of a guy named Bill Gates? murray |08beat his ass. |08<_sb> is anyone working on the cia web page? last i checked it |08was pretty dead. (no offense) |15 well, since i got back into the group alot of things |15wasn't getting accomplished, like viewers, web pages, etc.., |15now, i'm getting back into things, as you will see in the next |15cia pack, and me and napalm has been busy as shit, but we have |15some time now and we're working on getting things goin in |08 did you happen to catch bth#3 muff? |15 push: yeha, i liked it, real good coding, good artwork, |15and the articles had real good content, it's one of the best |15besided infinity :) |08 heh |08<_sb> heh,. but bth will release more, so we're cooler. |08 i was surprised at the popularity of both infinity & |08bth .. a lot of people saw the mags .. i thought the mag scene |08had vanished |15 sb: you'll get burnt out, we did, me and superfly don't |15have time to release monthly like we did, i think we're gonna |15release 3-4 times a year |08 good idea muff .. keep the mind fresh for new ideas. |08<_sb> yea, im sure ill burn out soon. |08 you will never burn out bitch |15 yeah, bth is cool, i dig it, it's diferent, i can't |15explain it, but it rocks |08<_sb> What do you think about IRC and the art scene? is it a |08good meeting place? or just a waste of time? |15 irc, fuck man, it has it's good points and bad points, |15i come on to irc to talk to my buds and find out what is goin |15on, but 99.9 percent of the time people are bitching about ops, |15getting kicked, i'm starting a new group you want to join, but |15for the most part it is cool, but new people always end up |15asking who the hell i am and calling me lame, |08 yea the bad parts of irc leave you with an empty hard |08drive. |08 muff, it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. |15 hmm, ansi scene, well, it is a fun place to be, i love |15running cia, and having healthy competition, but people will |15always bitch about shit, i just ignore it, the scene is always |15gonna change, and people will hop groups, and start new ones, |15i don't even worry or pay attention to new groups they usually |15die, and the better artists move on to bigger more established |15groups |15 i don't pay attention to what people think aout me, i |15think i'm a pretty cool guy, but thats just me :) |08<_sb> what do you think about the need for BBS's? are you still |08running high fidelity? |15 bbs's, fuck yes we need em, bbs's are the backbone to |15the scene, i love calling kick ass boards, we will always need |15bbs's, even if all of them go telnet, which hopefully someday |15hf will. Hell yes i still run hf, btw, i'm pissed, you didn't |15review my board for bth bitch :) |08 i thought mike did the reviewing for the boards in |08bth? |08<_sb> mrmuff... give me the number to HF, ill call and review |08it.. |15 217-874-2442 |08<_sb> ok, is there anything else going on with you or cia? what |08is revival all about? |15 well, revival is the official lit group for cia, ran |15by mister e., |08 what do you think about LIT muff ? |15 well, i use to hate it, but i'm getting into it, i |15really enjoy reading it, i guess in my old age i tend to do |15crazy shit and well, you write good lits, you can get some |15pussy :) |08 and a little pussy couldn't hurt everynow and then .. |08well muff, i think murray & i will rap this up by giving you the |08oppurtunity to throw any greets, clear any rumors, and give us |08any more comments you might have. |15 well, no rumors :), hmm, i would like to greet all |15the cia nigs, and all the new ones, my buds nivenh, wizoi, |15superfly, stc, napalm, tron, dev, spear, sb, pushead :) |15catbones, venom, sudden death, napalm, hmm, and all my |15other buds i forgot, khz, grey hawk |15 hmm, i can't think of anyone else :) |08<_sb> alright then. thanks for your time, look for BEYOND04 |08around march 15th |15 i would like to say that blacknet and escape net |15merged, and blacknet is the offical support net for cia and |15infinity, and anyone wantin to apply contact me or magellan, oh |15yeah, shouts to magellan |15 cool as shit, thanx for the interview, sorry i couldn't |15answer the cia secret operations :) |08<_sb> cool.. no prob.. later.. |08 no prob muff thanks for your time! |08 take it easy |15 l8r boys iv.5 369 |07 Beyond The Horizon Interview Copyright 1996 Beyond Enterprises |13 긁� � 같複複殯昉굅 � |13 긋 査昉� 複兵栢꿉賽賽 複� |08------------------------- |13 꾼栢꿉煞 栢� 같 査� nt |15Neurotic |13 같複兵꾼幡 � 殯� 갛百같複� |13� 갚꿉賽 賽賞百� 栢� 蔔昉賽賽栢棚 |07interview: |15shivan bastard |13 같 殯栢� 査껑 査꿉 殯栢� |07date: |15April 1, 1996 |13 蔔昉� 蔔꿉 갛껐 蔔蔔� |07media: |15IRC (#bth) |13 같긁査꿉賽 � � 갚굅 � 굉幡薩 |08------------------------- |13 賽� � � |07 Session Start: Mon Apr 01 03:16:12 1996 *** Now talking in #bth *** neurotic (~woop@infoweb.magi.com) has joined #bth *** ShivBast sets mode: +i |07 okay. |15 hey man, havent seen you on irc in FOREVER |07 I haven't really had my own internet account since last november, |07and I was without a monitor for a few months... |15 Was this a cause or affect of you leaving the scene? |07 A little bit of both. =) If you've ever read "the Celestine Prophecy" you'll understand that coincedences don't exist. There is a reason behind why everything happens. I decided not to renew my internet account due to lack of funds, well, to put it more appropriately, there were other things I wanted to spend my money on (like a new weight lifting machine). |07 A few days before I was going to release my last ansi, my monitor blew out. So I was without a computer for about a month and a half. |15 Thats cool, so you just wanted to spend your money on more |15important things in life. Are you in college now? |07 I'm finishing my last year of high school, which is the equivilant |07of first year college in the states. |07 Next september I'll be starting my first year of university. |15 thats cool .. how much of a role did you play in legend? it seems |15to have fallen apart after you left. |07 I was the first person who joined after DD formed it.. I guess I was one of the foundations of the group, although I tried to stay as far away from "leading" the group as I could. After Union I realized that leading a group is not what I like to do. I think Somms was perhaps the most influencial reason behind why the group fell apart. I personally had nothing to do with the decision. I just kinda got a monitor last week, hopped on irc, and found out the group was dead. I haven't even talked to any of the other legend members since then. |15 Do you think you're going to start drawing again anytime soon? |07 No. The doodleboy stage of my life has passed -- permanently. I've decided to release my last ansi with ice, and that will probably be the last anybody hears of me. |15 its gonna be a Nuclear Holocaust ansi right ;) |15 When will you release it? |15 Have you completed it? |07 It's not even a particularly good ansi, it just happened to be the last thing I drew. It isn't for anyone, it's just to notify the scene that I'm gone. It should be in the 9603 ice pack. |15 Thats cool, a nice subtle way to leave. Well what about your html abilities? are you moving away from that as well? |15 Your page was really nice last i saw it. |07 Well, I nuked my homepage and the legend homepage last week, if that's any indiciation. =) Nah, the internet will always be part of my life... it's becoming too ingrained into the North American society for it not to be. I don't see myself designing any homepages for myself or anyone else any time in the near future. |15 Thats a shame .. Do you think you will end up working with |15computers later in life? or has it just been a hobby through your teen age |15years? |07 Although, I would probably be doing the world a favour if I helped ice out in the html department. =) Has the ice homepage ever gone up? |15 goto www.ice.org, they finally got a coming soon logo up, with a |15nice little java scroller at the bottom |15 It will rock if they ever get it together. |07 Good lord. We were talking about the ice homepage when I first joined the group in Feb/95. Man, those guys know how to procrastinate. =) It took me a total of four days to set up my homepage and the legend homepage, both of which were pretty extensive. |07 That was one of the things that annoyed me about ice. We had the greatest ideas flowing over the mailing list, but few, if any, of them ever got implimented. |15 Yea, there is absolutely NO excuse for the ice web guys, i'm |15expecting it to have fireworks and 3 dimensional chics to give me oral sex |15while i look at the pictures hehe |15 Why did you leave ice in the first place? what realy annoyed you |15the most? |07 By the time it's finished it'll probably be fully VRML with a direct plugin to your neuro-cortex. -SlashKILL:#*.com- ATTANTION: The internet will be going down in 5 minutes. Quit all processes and unplug your computers to be sure your data isn't corrupted. Nice to know that the amount of socially welladjusted, mature individuals on the net is just as high as ever. (prae/#*.com) Please ignore that message. Just a bot run amok. Pay no attention. |15 yea hehe.. thats something i fucking hate about the internet and |15art scene in paticular, too many immature little kids |07 No shit. I'm expecting the next revolution in ansi drawing programs to come when they include pampers. =) |15 hah,. Do you think ansi is going to survive much longer? Is the |15scene finally moving towards high res? |07 That's part of what killed my interest in computers and the scene. It stopped being elite underground people who were very limited in number and knew how to do all sorta of cool things. Ansi will survive as long as people like me have 386s with VGA cards. =) |15 386s? you might not even be able to read BTH ! |15 Well what exactly are you doing on irc tonight anyway? just |15catching up with whats going on? |07 I think I've only read one issue of BTH, anyways. I thought it was a good mag. I'm here for the same reason I got into computers in the first place. Can't sleep. =) If it wasn't for insomniacs the scene probably wouldn't even exist. |15 hehe.. i think thats gonna be one of the quotes of the month ;) |07 I'm usually out raving every saturday, get home some time after dawn, watch some Pinky and the Brain, and go to sleep around 11am. Hey, this is probably the ONLY interview anyone is going to read with me. You better come up with some good questions. =) Actually, I think this might be the first time I've had an interview published. |15 Who were you major influences when you first started drawing? |07 I've been interviewed for various other emags before, but the idiots who ran them (hi Brian =) always managed to lose the interview. Probably Nailz. Cuz he was the only person in my area code who was any good. =) |15 this will be published in a few days, maybe tommorow. |07 I've been influenced by so many different people over the years.. my style has changed quite a few times. I've drawn somewhere around 100 ansis. |15 What about groups? Did you like your time with iCE? Union? who |15were some of your favorite people to be in a group with? |07 ...and I still can't do fonts. |07 Hmm.. my favorite people to be in a group with.. now there's a question you don't hear very often... |15 exactly |15 trying not to use the same old boring interview questions |07 Welp, Mass Delusion, Syntax Error.. those are two of the guys I've enjoyed talking with the most over the net. For confs and stuff, guys like Inky and Deeply Disturbed rock... I've just known so many people over the years that it's hard to come up with names.. especially since it's been quite a while since I was heavily in the scene. |15 Cool, what do you think was the highlight of you experiences in the scene? During the birth of Legend? |07 Ever while Legend was at it's peak, I wasn't around on irc that often. |15 yea, i dont think ive ever seen you on irc before, i happen to think its a pretty big waste of time. |07 Damn. Hilight of my time in the scene.. I think it was probably a tie between the birth of legend, the first couple of months in ice, and the second last month in union (when Lord Jazz, T2, et all joined) I couldn't agree with you more. I mean, why talk to friends on irc when all you have to do is walk out of your house? |15 Who is (or was when you were more in the scene) your favorite ANSI |15artist? |07 I think the only person I've ever been good friends with who was a "computer person" was Future Assassin, and even that friendship has kinda died lately. my favorite doodleboy ever.. hrm... that is an extremely hard question. I'll go with Somms. With Deeply Disturbed and Kamikazee as close seconds. |15 good choice ;) Here comes another hard one, what is your favorite |15indivual ansi ever, do you have one? Somms has put a few killers out. |07 Power Grid, by Somms. It was one of his last ansis in acid. I don't know what it is.. but I just can't find a fault in it. Even Silver Rat's cheezy font works. =) He doesn't even consider it one of his good ones. |15 yea, im gonna go look for that later.. What do you think is YOUR |15best ansi? |07 I think my best ansi was my Biohazard/2 one, that I released in legend. I just liked the way that one came out. ... that was probably one of my least-worst fonts. =) |15 yea i think that was the best ansi of the month in bth |07 I remember reading bth and all my reviews were "could have used a better font" =) |15 hehe |07 oh well. everyone has to have their own style that they're known for. =) |15 What drawing programs did you use for all those killer pics? Did |15you ever use icedraw? |07 I never had a copy of icedraw. I actually used thedraw v4.61 for all of my pics, touching them up and pasting them together in aciddraw. Just a habit. And even when I used aciddraw, I used v0.50b =) maybe I phear change. |15 alot of artists seem to still use TheDraw, what is it about it |15that made it so special? |07 Its what we all started with. We phear change. =) |15 If you ever came back to the scene? What group would it be with? |15iCE? |07 Well, I would never come back to the scene.. =) but it would probably be with ice. provided syntax was around a lot. He's fun to talk to. |15 Was ice a close group? Did you guys talk alot, lack of |15communication seems to kill alot of groups |07 either my life, or the scene, would have to change a lot before I came back. Maybe if I had some huge spinal injury and all I could do was type all day. =) Ice just has a wicked mailing list. It was fun.. when I was in ice, I was also spending three hours a day using the internet as part of a program at my school.. so I always had like 20-30 minutes to spend reading the messages. Ideas would just get bounced back and forth so fast... the only problem was with actualizing them. nothing ever got accomplished. |15 sounds cool.. i was just wondering, how long did it take you to |15make your average 200 line ansi? |07 whenever there was a really wicked telecom guy and we'd have a lot of confs, was cool too. Get me, DD, Inky and a bunch of other idiots on the line and you're sure to have a good time. =) I have no idea. I don't think I've ever just sat down and drawn an ansi from start to finish. could be anywhere from six to ten hours.. maybe longer |15 Do you have a particular ansi that you spent an extra amount of |15time on? |07 All I know is that when I was making like $20-30 a pic, it was definately less then minimum wage. |15 Yea, but you had some fun doing it. |07 Yeah, NC-BK1... my batkave ansi. I started that one while I was in ice, and finished it in legend. Also, NC-CH1 which I started in Union and finished in Ice. Both of those ansis took SO long to do... I almost quit the scene on both of them. |15 they turned out killer though, i remember them both. |07 NC-CH1 was the one of the green dragon and the chick.. it was a really cool pic. |15 Did that have anything to do with your leaving? Frustration? |07 ... |07 .o. Yeah.. but as with everything there comes a point where it turns from being fun to being painful. =) |15 Is there anything else you'd like to add? about the scene, |15anyone you want to greet/thank ? |07 anyways, i think this interview's coming to a close.. people can find collections of my stuff lying around in the NC-1993, NC-1994, NC-1995, and NC-1996 zip files, somewhere on the net. they should be in ftp://arpeggio.res.cmu.edu/othersupport/nc/ are we lagged? |15 yea |15 we are hella lagged |07 if you see my email address(es), url(es), or postal box.. don't bother. They're all gone. see ya all later. or not. whatever. |15 thanks for your time, nice to talk to ya again.. |07 shiv: the last line of yours that I saw was "they turned out killer though, i remember them both." so you might want to nuke anything you said after that. buh-bye. *** neurotic has quit IRC (Leaving) Session Close: Mon Apr 01 04:29:01 1996 www.rev 133 |08 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |08 � 같 같같� 같같같같같같같굅굇굉�|15 WWW Review|08 굉굇굅굅같같같같같같같 같같� 같 � |08 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |07 |07 Wow, I've seen some great improvements on the web this month, seems like |07 everyone finaly figured out the basics of Java, and alot of cool html 3.0 and |07 cgi-bin addon's have poped up as well. Theres still alot of pages that dont |07 quite meet up to the hype though, and thats what im gonna do for you today, |07 give a detailed review, so you can decide for yourself if all these pages are |07 worth your time ... |07 |08 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |08 � 같 같같� 같같같같굅굇굉� |15The Art Scene Homepage|08 굉굇굅굅같같같같 같같� 같 � |08 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |07 |08 -- url:|15 http://walden.mo.net/~ms/tash |08 -- maintained by: leonardo (iCE advertisements) |08 -- last updated as of this writing: unknown (a long time ago) |07 |07 graphics: |13*** |07 content: |13*** |07 layout: |13*** |07 overall: |13*** |07 |07 TASH has always been sort of the iCE counterpart to Superunknown. It's not |07 as well known, but they have alot in common as far as content. There are some |07 excellent graphics on this page, as well as a very extensive (and outdated) |07 address book, full of email addresses and home pages. With a little work, |07 this page could kick. The content is definately there, he just needs to update |07 a few things,the vga is pretty nice, but it really looks like he hasn't touched |07 the page in about 3 or 4 months, maybe more. And with all the new developments |07 in HTML, this once great page is being left behind. Actually, the sections for |07 the music and demo scenes where never even completed. It needs some more work |07 in that department as well. This page realy isn't worth the link, all the info |07 is outdated, and theres nothing realy special as far as presentation. |07 |08 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |08 � 같 같같� 같같같같같같갚갚굇껑 |15Netherworld|08 굉굇굅굅같같같같같같같 같같� 같 � |08 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |07 |08 -- url: |15http://kiwi.ice.org/nworld |08 -- maintained by: surreal logic |08 -- last updated: today |07 |07 graphics: |13***** |07 content: |13***** |07 layout: |13***** |07 overall: |13***** |07 |07 Quite simply the best art related page I've ever seen. HTML 3.0, Java |07 applets, incredible graphics, great content, excellent design. This is THE |07 page to see this month. It's actually a magazine, instead of the typical coded |07 emag, its in HTML form. Its got articles, reviews, etc.. And it looks nicer |07 than most of the emags I've seen lately. Unfortunately, its not quite done yet |07 I ran into a few small problems with it, and suddenly its gone, www.ice.org |07 is in transition right now, being prepared to finally go public,and after being |07 up for only a week, netherworld vanished ;( was it just a figment of my |07 imagination? not hardly, its already made quite a stir during the short time |07 it was up. The complete ice homepage, along with netherworld, should be back |07 up in a week or two. If you didnt see it, you'll just have to take my word for |07 it, this page kicks ass! |07 |08 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |08 � 같 같같� 같같같같같같같같갚갚굇껑 |15Ankh |08굉굇굅굅같같같같같같같같� 같같� 같 � |08 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |07 |08 -- url: |15http://shoga.wwa.com/~mcgrath/ankh |08 -- maintained by: bedlam (bedlam art+web services) |08 -- last updated: today |07 |07 graphics: |13**** |07 content:|13 **** |07 layout: |13**** |07 overall:|13 **** |07 |07 In it's second month of operation, Ankh has become a well known source of |07 pack reviews on the net. Just about everyone has been here by now, and it |07 seems the grading is very well respected. I actually saw some lamers on irc |07 arguing about the shit 'Apathy was #19 on ankh so bite me' hehe. Its an |07 excellent page with alot of great additions being planned. The main page |07 is a table listing of that months packs, with combined scores, ect.. Then |07 you click on a pack to view the individual reviews. Floodmyth will be |07 handling a Web Grading section of Ankh, and an archive for past month rankings |07 is being planned as well. Bedlam and Catbones did an excellent job with the |07 graphics. Definately worth the link. |07 |08 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |08 � 같 같같� 같같같같같같같같갚갚굇껑 |15Mop!|08 굉굇굅굅같같같같같같같같� 같같� 같 � |08 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |07 |08 -- url: |15http://shoga.wwa.com/~mcgrath/mop |08 -- maintained by: bedlam (mop) |08 -- last updated: today |07 |07 graphics:|13 **** |07 content: |13**** |07 layout: |13**** |07 overall:|13 **** |07 |07 Wow, much nicer than the average group page. Frames, some cool graphics by |07 bedlam and catbones. Not too entertaining unless your interested in joining mop |07 but if you're in mop, its great. The nfo file, member list, ect.. VERY up to |07 date. One small thing i didn't like was the mainmenu.html file, there is about |07 a 15% frame on the right side, yet the vga logo by catbones spreads across the |07 whole physical screen, forcing the user to scroll left and right in the main |07 frame to view it, as well as scrolling up and down for the rest of the info. |07 Maybe it's just me, but i have always hated two scrollbars in a frame, looks |07 good though, well worth the link. |07 |08 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |08 � 같 같같같같같같같같같같같굅굇굉� |15Conclusion|08 굉굇굅굅같같같같같같같같같 같 � |08 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |07 |07 Thats all i have time for this month, look for some more reviews next |07 issue, I'm running out of sites to grade, maybe ill review some demo, or |07 music sites next time as well. This month i'd have to say that, based |07 solely on my opinions, the top 3 art related web sites are : |07 |07 1 netherworld |07 2 ankh |07 3 superunknown |07 |07 After that, there is a significant drop in quality, there are some nice |07 group pages (mop), but they arent of much interest unless your in that group. |07 If you would like your site reviewed, send mail to blade@blandest.com ... I |07 will also be reviewing personal pages next month, and possibly demo related |07 pages. I guess thats it for this month, good job by bedlam, floodmyth, and |07 the ice crew for the outstanding work on their pages. |07 |07 |04s|12h|07i|08van |04b|12a|07s|08tard <|15blade|07/|15mop|08> |07http://jax.gulfnet.com/user_pages/murray |07 bbs.rev 164 |08 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |08 � 같 같같같� 같같같같같같굅굇굉� |15bbs review|08 굉굇굅굅같같같같같� 같같같같 같 � |08 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |07Greetings! Here are this month's bbs reviews, as told by one Shivan Bastard. We here at BTH try to be as impartial as possible and give our true opinions. Enjoy. |08 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |08 � 같 같같같� 같같같같같같같굅굇굉� |15sugar! |08굉굇굅굅같같같같같같같 같같같� 같 � |08 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |13Statistics - |07Area Code : |15904 |07Sysop : |15Subconsciousness |07Users : |159 locals / 1 ld |07Affils : |15Blade Member Board |07Software : |15Oblivion/2 |07Graphics : |15ANSI Only |07Theme : |15none |13Setup - |07This is incredible. The board hasn't been up more than a month, yet it's already up with the ranks of AVGA, Nuclear Holocaust, and Infiniti Zend (best art boards in 904). Not so much modding skills, but ansi and overall design makes it look great. There is nothing on this board even CLOSE to default. How many oblivion/2 sysops actualy change the FSEHELP.ANS file? A few things are a little messed up right now, actually only 2, file transfers suck, and oneliners are messed up, but you can't even notice once you sit back and take a look at the board. Everything is color coordinated, it's very easy to get around in, nice lightbars, easy to use menus. The menu structure follows the trend that I began last year with a System Services Menu, and a User Services Menu, to keep the number of options on the main menu relatively low. It just went up and there are only 10 callers now, but I wouldn't care if i was the only caller, it's still a nice setup, and I'm sure people will discover it soon. A few small suggestions would be to get a new matrix, fix the oneliners, and pick up some art nets (speednet,blacknet,ect..) |13Files - |071 Gig of Art Packs. Not so much the old stuff, but every month there is like 30 new packs in the file areas. If a group releases, it comes here sometime during the first few days. A very small percentage of music disks and demos, but some drawing utilties. Also has a conference for bbs stuff, oblivion/2 modding packages, alternative softwares, ect.. Great place to go if your looking for new packs. |13Messages - |07A few inactive local message bases, and NO nets, speednet and maybe some more are on the way, but for now, the message bases are pretty lacking. |08 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |08 � 같 같같같� 같같같같같같같굅굇굉� |15huma |08굉굇굅굅같같같같같같같 같같같� 같 � |08 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |13Statistics - |07Area Code : |15619 |07Sysop : |15Lord Jazz |07Users : |15alot |07Affils : |15Odium WHQ |07Software : |15Oblivion/2 |07Graphics : |15ANSI Only |07Theme : |15none |13Setup - |07Someone learned the TheDraw animation mode,and they just didn't stop! ;) hehe.. Awesome 24 line lord jazz ansi's everywhere you look, post a message, upload a file, newscan, whatever you do, theres a 24 line status screen or lightbar, and aLOT of animation. It looks great, until i realized it took me over 3 minutes to get to the main menu, and that i was paying for the call ;) The whole thing is like a lord jazz gallery, heh, nothing generic about this obv2 setup, reminds me alot of Glue (bleach/illness whq); maybe because undertaker is a cosys? Definately worth checking out, whatever you do though, dont ask ld for an ansi! heh.. he gets enough of that. One thing that annoys me is lord jazz's damn modem. He runs oblivion/2 without intermail or anything, and when it firsts picks up, you get garbage for about 15-20 seconds.. then it finally comes though with the smooth matrix yea yea, i know i'm too picky ;) |13Files - |07Uhgh.. Last time I asked huma was run with an 80 meg hard drive, about 20 of that available for files. All the odium packs, all this months submissions, and thats about it, really. He should sell one of his ansis for a damn hard drive. |13Messages - |07Another weak point, NO MESSAGE nets, got it, NONE .. just a few local bases, which are alot more active than the local bases on any other board i call, but still he really needs to pick up speednet or something. |08 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |08 � 같 같같같� 같같같같같같굅굇굉� |15the regency |08굉굇굅굅같같같같같� 같같같� 같 � |08 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |13Statistics - |07Area Code : |15412/770 (telnet://tregency.res.cmu.edu) |07Sysop : |15Halaster |07Users : |15alot |07Affils : |15Fire WHQ |07Software : |15Renegade |07Graphics : |15ANSI Only |07Theme : |15none |13Setup - |07I didn't know what to expect, I've seen millions of ansis for The Regency, but it's renegade and telnet (two strikes against as far as setup) but it's actually one of the best looking telnet boards I've seen. I wish I could've called it through qmodem and a shell account, would've looked alot nicer. There were plenty of original ansis everywhere (nothing ripped), I guess it pays to be the leader of a top 4 art group. The login sequence is nice, a #28 menu template. Alot of times art boards look to blan, because all the ansis are by the same artist (usually the sysop) but not on here, halaster has a nice mix up of ansis from alot of different artists. I couldn't do as good of a review on the setup, due to my lack of a shell account, and the pains of telnet in general. But considering you dont have to pay to reach this board, there's no excuse not to check it out! |13Files - |07Hmm.. looks like all transfers are temporarily impossible. zmodem on a multinode telnet board is a bitch to setup. |13Messages - |07Damn, hes got like every net in the world. Pyrnonet, blacknet, twingle, speednet and about 4 others. Nice efficient messaging system. This really makes the board, theres no excuse not to post with a selection like this. |08 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |08 � 같 같같같� 같같같같같같같굅굇굉� |15results |08굉굇굅굅같같같같같같� 같같같� 같 � |08 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |07So far out of the last 2 months of reviews, these are my rankings |15#1 - |13AlderAAn |15#2 - |13Jive Soda |15#3 - |13hUMA |07These rankings are primarily based on setup, and only reflect those boards that I have graded so far. Next month i plan on reviewing Piranha, Evil Intentions, and a few others .. don't email me asking to review your board, if it's good, i've heard about it ;) |04s|12h|07i|08van |04b|12a|07s|08tard <|15blade|07/|15mop|08> |07http://jax.gulfnet.com/user_pages/murray emag.rev 113 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |08� 같 같같같같같같같같같같굅굇굉� |15Emag Review |08굉굇굅굅같같같같같같같같같같 같 � |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wow.. alot of new emags have come out in the last few weeks. I will try to give a unbiased (yea right) review of the feeble competition to BTH ... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |08� 같 같같같같같같같같같같같굅굇굉� |15Infinity |08굉굇굅굅같같같같같같같같같같� 같 � |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Infinity Issue #5 (betas) Designed by MrMuff of CiA. Programmed by Sudden Death of CiA. I am one elite mother fucker ;) This emag isnt even out, but i can still sit here and review it? am i telepathic? no, am i friends with muff and sdeath? yes. heh. This mag is incredible. A kickass vga animation at the beggining alot of rip submenus and reader interfaces. The only complaint i can find is the main menu ansi, its the Galactic Enterprises matrix that killa hertz did a few months back! should've found a new ansi guys..Alot of the content was also severely outdated (i mean like christmas articles, and shit from mid '95). I'm really glad to see infinity again, and i hope they release a little more often in the future ;) |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |08� 같 같같같같같같같같같같같갚갚굇껑 |15RIFT |08굉굇굅굅같같같같같같같같같같같같 같 � |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ RIFT (Red Indians Fondling Themselves) Issue 3 Designed and programmed by Hells Fury of Dark If you pay no attention to the ripped FLI, ripped s3m, 3 ripped ansis, all of the ripped code,and the horrible content, its actually a pretty good emag. hAh. after this release the guy was getting ragged on so hard, he had to change his alias to diocese and quit all his current affils to find new ones. The 'mini game' i would like to point out, is copyrighted by Bas van gaalen, and is included with the GFXFX2 pascal graphics library. He gave no credit to the people who created the FLI, or the S3M. The menu routines were fucked up, allowing you to select the dividers between the options? There was jpeg (Editor's note: No there wasn't. The JPG's were actually renamed GIF's) viewing capabilities, allowing top5 vga's without that big of a filesize, and i must admit, he's cool for conning some big company out of the routines. He admits the code isn't his,but once again, no credit is given. The whole thing reminded me of this gay board in my area code that gets all his ansis by ripping from old acid packs. He even ripped the documentation file nearly word for word from bladeview/2. I'll give anyone a hundred dollars if they can find a more blatent rip of code and art than this peice of shit emag. now on with the negative side ... |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |08� 같 같같같같같같같같같같굅굇굉� |15Crash 'N Burn |08굉굇굅굅같같같같같같같같같 같 � |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Crash 'N Burn March 1996 Designed and programmed by Stone the Crow This has always been one of my favorite emags. The coding is nice and simple, never any bugs, and the content is usually above average. This issue was a little bare. The article 'krux on freedom' was pretty smooth, and so were alot of the others, the reviews seemed fair to me. The main ansi was really cool, from a cia ansi he did this month, glad to see it's less obscene than previous months ;) |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |08� 같 같같같같같같같같같같같갚갚굇껑 |15Vagina |08굉굇굅굅같같같같같같같같같같같 같 � |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Vagina Issue #2 (late February) Designed and created by Lord Jazz I usually dont like non coded emags but this one was nice, pack reviews, best ansis, interviews, ect.. It appears to cater more towards the small groups, instead of the more established groups like Blade and Acid. I hope to see alot more issues in the coming months. The advertisements were a fresh touch. |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |08� 같 같같같같같같같같같같같갚갚굇껑 |15Doodle |08굉굇굅굅같같같같같같같같같같같 같 � |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Doodle Issue #1 (march) Designed Grind King Coded by Erratic Wow great, another BRAND NEW emag. Just what the scene needs right now, i was really dreading reviewing this one, but actually it's pretty cool, ALOT of people on irc got it (mostly #ansi lamers, as we notice through the reader poll). Another thing going against this mag is the staff, who are these guys? But despite this, the simple coding and small filesize made a great little 3 minutes of enjoyment! heh. no music, top5 ansis, vga to take up space. The scroller was very nice, allowing colors, and it wasn't choppy at all. I'd like to see another issue soon, was pretty decent for a first release. |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |08� 같 같같같같같같같같같같갚갚굇껑 |15Conclusion |08굉굇굅굅같같같같같같같같같같 같 � |07------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I know i saw alot more emags than this this month.. but that's all i have now. I think what we need is some emag mergers! Groups do it all the time, but what happens when the scene gets too flooded with emags? most of them just die out. If some of these guys worked together, to create a few killer emags, (that released on a MONTHLY basis)it would really be alot better than hundreds of different emags from every lamer and his group ;) I think infinity was probably the best emag of the month, but then again, with nearly a year since the last issue, i think anyone could make a great emag ;) |04 |07 |04,s$|07 |08--|07 |08-|07 -- -|12--|04,sS�'"�Ss,|12-|07-|04 �$$|04$|04a'"�Ss,|12-|07-- |08-|07-|08-|07 |08- |07 |15s h i v a n|07 |04 `"羲촕#s, $$$$|07 |04$|04$|04$&|07 |15b a s t a r d|07 |08-|07 |08-|07- ---|12-|04�$$$$|12-|07-|04 |04$|04$$�|07-|04 �$$$ |12-|07-|04 $$$�|07 |12--|07 |08-|07- |08-|07 |04`"�#,sS�"` `"�#,sS�"` |07 program.rev 41 |08 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |08 � 같 같같같같같같같같같굅굇굉� |15Program Reviews|08 굉굇굅굅같같같같같같같같� 같 � |08 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |07 This month, I decided to expand the program reviews to include in depth reviews of current commercial products. From now on, this section will review any type program released, be it freeware, shareware, or commercial. If you have a program you'd like to review, write something up and send it our way. We'd love to get other opinions. |08 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |08 � 같 같같같같같같같같같같갚갚굇껑 |15Descent 2|08 굉굇굅굅같같같같같같같같같같 같 � |08 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |07 Descent 2 was recently released by Interplay, and I had a chance to check it out. I ran the game on my Pentium133, and it was plenty fast. I didn't have any problems getting it installed, or getting it running. It runs in my normal boot, so I didn't need to tweek my multi-configs, which is nice. The game itself has a pretty cheesy main options interface. Nothing real fancy, but once you get into the game it starts to roq. If you've never played Descent, the premise is pretty much the same as any 3-D 1st Person type game, such as Doom or Dark Forces (these games, by the way, make me incredibly nauseous, which is a damn shame since they are so cool). The difference in Descent is that you are in a little ship, which can rotate 360 degrees inside the playing maze. I never played the original Descent, but this game was pretty damn cool. The use of a 'guidebot' is helpful to show you exactly where it is you want to be going next, instead of wondering around aimlessly, Although if you want to go for the cool stuff, you'll have to explore. Naturally, you don't just go around finding stuff, there are always other little ships getting in your way. Luckily, they've supplied us with some rad guns to fight our way through the game. The explosions and effects are definitly pretty rad, and the main graphics of the game are decent. I wouldn't expect better graphics from a 3-D game like this, they are all pretty limited by the fast action play. The music and sound effects are pretty cool, although I'm sure my copy didn't have all of the perks you'd get if you actually buy the game. Overall, a pretty cool game. If it didn't make me sick everytime I sit sit down to play it, I'd probably be playing it right now instead of writing about it. --- Descent 2, from Interplay [3-D Action] - ******** (8 of 10) ansi.rev 15 -------------------------------------------------------------- � 같 같같같같같굅굇굉� Reviewer's Notes 굉굇굅굅같같같같� 같 � -------------------------------------------------------------- Feburay Review Team: Shivan Bastard,Mindcrime Since the bulk of BTH3 was completed we have added three new reviews: legend06, mop-9602, and fire0296. These packs were rather good and I must say that these past few months have not been as bad as the populous believes. The ansi wasn't as good as it could have been, but nonetheless quite good, and the vga/rip was definitly up to par. These top five ansis are just a sampling of what we looked at. - mindcrime [bth editor-in-chief] intro.bth 32 |15Beyond The Horizon - We've only just begun. |07Greetings, and welcome to the latest and greatest issue if Beyond The Horizon. I think we've really pulled out all the stops on this one, so I really hope you enjoy it. It has been a tad over two months since the last release, so we've had plenty of time to enhance the magazine and fine tune those enhancements to provide for your reading pleasure. This month's edition of BTH features some of the finest content I've personally ever seen in a magazine of this calibur. Five incredible and exclusive interviews top off this mind-numbingly awesome issue, and I'd like to thank all those who made it possible. Especially thanks to Shivan Bastard for bearing with my long nights and impossible dreams in making this mag a reality. But anyway, enough of that. In the coming months, we hope to bring you better and better issues of BTH as we progress and take on new horizons. Unfortunatly, we can't do this alone. So we're asking for your help. BTH has proven itself, especially in the last two issues, to be the finest scene related emag in production, and we hope that this will begin to convince people to contribute. We can always use your art, writing, reviews, and mindless babblings. As always, if you're interested in contributing, email me at mike@exit109.com . Well, I've got nothing left to say. We'll let the mag speak for itself. Enjoy you're journey Beyond The Horizon... |07 ,#' |08(|15mindcrime|07::blade'legacy'acid|08) -- -+ |07.$#. |08(|07close your eyes, you can find all you need in your mind|08) - -+ |13mad props to |15shivan bastard, trip, cerkit, belial, edicius, ilsundal, lucifer, grey hawk, napalm, rai, subconsciousness, nemesis, riv, neurotic, bedlam, halaster, stone the crow, mr muff, and everyone else who helped out on this issue. notes.bth 38 |15 beyond the horizon #4 - programmers notes |08 ----------------------------------------- |07 |07 Sorry for the delay of this months installment of Beyond The Horizon, |07 it wasnt my fault, I swear!. It may take just a few days to gather the |07 material for all those other shitty mags in the scene, but for a mag like |07 bth it takes months trying to gather enough high quality articles. I tried |07 to add some cool new stuff this month, but i had a busy month with school |07 and work. If you have any trouble with the mag, just drop me a note. You |07 can reach me through agoranet/speednet or |15shivan@acid.org|07. If you have any |07 fresh ideas for the coding, or want some help, feel free to contact me. |07 The mag is coded in pascal, with about 20% inline assembly. I used the |07 BWSB Sound Library for the basis of my sound code, and Fastgraph library |07 for my high resolution graphics primatives. The VGA ansi scrolling routine |07 was written by Crimson Overlord of CiA. The complete source code to |07 issue 2, as well as most of the units i used to make this issue, can be |07 found on my homepage, at |15http://jax.gulfnet.com/user_pages/murray.|07 I also |07 reccomend checking out ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/demos/code and of course |07 x2ftp.oulu.fi/pub/msdos/programming these are the two best sources of |07 programming files on the net. Anyways, hope you like the finished product, |07 I rewrote about half the code this issue, giving mc a turbo charged bth |07 compiler that lets him edit all the menus, articles, ect. So that means if |07 Issue #5 doesnt come out before May 15th, its not the fault of a lazy coder |07 |07 thanks: sudden death, skull leader, friar tuck, mcp.. |07 |07 gr33ts:pussyhead,sub/c,mindcrime,bedlam,mr muff,napalm,nightblade,tweedwacker, |07 scribble,sdeath,khz,andallofblade/mop/acid! |07 |07 |04 |07|04,s$|07 |08--|07 |08-|07-- -|12--|04,sS�'"�Ss,|12-|07-|04 �$$|04$|04a'"�Ss,|12-|07-- |08-|07-|08-|07 |08- |07 |15s h i v a n|07 |04 `"羲촕#s, $$$$|07|04$|04$|04$&|07 |15b a s t a r d|07 |08-|07 |08-|07- ---|12-|04�$$$$|12-|07-|04 |04$|04$$�|07-|04 �$$$ |12-|07-|04 $$$�|07 |12--|07 |08-|07- |08-|07 |04`"�#,sS�"` `"�#,sS�"` |07 contact.bth 21 |15contact information |07------------------- if you would like to contribute to beyond the horizon, or just voice an opinion or harass the members, please use one of the following forms of contacting us... we are currently looking for writers of all kinds, including reviewers, interviewers, article writers, etc... if you are interested in contributing for bth5, contact us. |07boards- |15alderAAn - 908.224.8780 |07internet- |15mike@exit109.com, mc@acid.org (mindcrime) |15murray@jax.gulfnet.com (shivan bastard) |15blade@blandest.com (blade productions) |15- bth staff. credits.bth 30 |13 긁� � 같複複殯昉굅 � |13 긋 査昉� 複兵栢꿉賽賽 複� |13 꾼栢꿉煞 栢� 같 査� nt |13 같複兵꾼幡 � 殯� 갛百같複� |13� 갚꿉賽 賽賞百� 栢� 蔔昉賽賽栢棚 |13 같 殯栢� 査껑 査꿉 殯栢� |13 蔔昉� 蔔꿉 갛껐 蔔蔔� |13 같긁査꿉賽 � � 갚굅 � 굉幡薩 |13 賽� � � |13Beyond the Horizon - Issue Number Four - April 8th 1996 |07------------------------------------------------------- |07 Editor-In-Chief|15: Mindcrime |07Layout and Design|15: Mindcrime/Shivan Bastard |07Coding|15: Shivan Bastard |07Music|15: Pinion |07Main Interface|15: Subconsciousness |07Article Selection Interface|15: Rai |07 Closing Interface|15: Rai |07Reader Interface|15: Mindcrime |07File_id.Diz|15: Napalm |13-- Writers -- |15 Mindcrime, Shivan Bastard, Pushead |15 Hack, Mister E, Lucifer, Riv, Trip |13-- Special Thanks -- |15Halaster, Bedlam, Stone The Crow, Mr Muff, Neurotic |15 Belial, Cerkit, Edicius, Ilsundal, Trip